<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I have removed Fedora from ny pc. My clients would find it harder to use than the Kubunto I have currently installed. That may not make since because the interface is the same; the restrictions on Internet access that are inherent and the SSL Load requirements that are automatic make a Crash reinstall much more easily accomplished with Kubunto. I have over 500 clients with various Operating Systems and the Fedora Project just lost the opportunity of servicing.<div><br></div><div>Jerry Babione</div><div>Co-Founder, Just Plain Folks Organization, Inc.</div><div><br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 8/11/10, livecd-request@lists.fedoraproject.org <i><livecd-request@lists.fedoraproject.org></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: livecd-request@lists.fedoraproject.org
<livecd-request@lists.fedoraproject.org><br>Subject: livecd Digest, Vol 64, Issue 2<br>To: livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org<br>Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 11:24 AM<br><br><div class="plainMail">Send livecd mailing list submissions to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/livecd" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/livecd</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:livecd-request@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd-request@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd-request@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a
ymailto="mailto:livecd-owner@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd-owner@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd-owner@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of livecd digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. How to include firefox addons in livecd? (Arun SAG)<br> 2. Re: How to include firefox addons in livecd? (Mads Kiilerich)<br> 3. no more git.fedoraproject.org ? (Marc Herbert)<br> 4. Backporting livecd-tools to f13? (Bruno Wolff III)<br> 5. Re: Backporting livecd-tools to f13? (Jasper Hartline)<br> 6. [PATCH] Fixed buggy [[ "$DEV" =~ "/dev/loop*" ]] tests with<br> new isdevloop() function (Marc Herbert)<br> 7. Re: [PATCH] Fixed buggy [[ "$DEV" =~ "/dev/loop*" ]] tests<br> with
new isdevloop() function (Marc Herbert)<br> 8. xforcevesa? (Marc Herbert)<br> 9. Re: xforcevesa? (Jasper Hartline)<br> 10. Re: xforcevesa? (Marc Herbert)<br> 11. Re: xforcevesa? (Jasper Hartline)<br> 12. Extlinux has no Ext4 support, nor BTRFS - What about Grub?<br> (Jasper Hartline)<br> 13. Re: xforcevesa? (Marc Herbert)<br> 14. Re: xforcevesa? (Jasper Hartline)<br> 15. Re: UDF filesystem for the ISO image? (Marc Herbert)<br> 16. Fedora is going away in my Office. I'll use Ubunto.<br> (Jerry Babione)<br> 17. Re: Fedora is going away in my Office. I'll use Ubunto.<br> (Scott Dowdle)<br> 18. Request to maintainer to commit these patches (Jasper Hartline)<br> 19. Extlinux has no Ext4 support, nor BTRFS - What about Grub?<br>
(Jasper Hartline)<br> 20. Re: xforcevesa? (Mads Kiilerich)<br> 21. Re: xforcevesa? (Thorsten Leemhuis)<br> 22. Re: Request to maintainer to commit these patches<br> (Bruno Wolff III)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 12:14:15 +0530<br>From: Arun SAG <<a ymailto="mailto:sagarun@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=sagarun@gmail.com">sagarun@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] How to include firefox addons in livecd?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br> <<a ymailto="mailto:AANLkTik4Eujj5fufF1L00_KihfE5C-vyAE7NQbitHWyw@mail.gmail.com"
href="/mc/compose?to=AANLkTik4Eujj5fufF1L00_KihfE5C-vyAE7NQbitHWyw@mail.gmail.com">AANLkTik4Eujj5fufF1L00_KihfE5C-vyAE7NQbitHWyw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Hi,<br><br>Is there any way to add some useful Firefox addon's into live cd? Do i have<br>to create rpm of each and every addon?<br><br>-- <br>Arun S.A.G<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <a href="http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/livecd/attachments/20100803/3488ffc1/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/livecd/attachments/20100803/3488ffc1/attachment-0001.html</a> <br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 10:15:41 +0200<br>From: Mads Kiilerich <<a ymailto="mailto:mads@kiilerich.com" href="/mc/compose?to=mads@kiilerich.com">mads@kiilerich.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] How to include firefox
addons in<br> livecd?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:4C57D02D.5080104@kiilerich.com" href="/mc/compose?to=4C57D02D.5080104@kiilerich.com">4C57D02D.5080104@kiilerich.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed<br><br>On 08/03/2010 08:44 AM, Arun SAG wrote:<br>> Hi,<br>><br>> Is there any way to add some useful Firefox addon's into live cd? Do i<br>> have to create rpm of each and every addon?<br><br>That is how I prefer to do it.<br><br>You can also just manually copy /usr/lib/mozilla/extensions in a <br>nochroot section.<br><br>/Mads<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:52:17 +0100<br>From: Marc Herbert <<a ymailto="mailto:Marc.Herbert@gmail.com"
href="/mc/compose?to=Marc.Herbert@gmail.com">Marc.Herbert@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] no more git.fedoraproject.org ?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID: <i39af1$2jp$<a ymailto="mailto:1@dough.gmane.org" href="/mc/compose?to=1@dough.gmane.org">1@dough.gmane.org</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br>Hi,<br><br> Until not so long ago, it was possible to get the source code using<br>the DNS name "git.fedoraproject.org" as explained here:<br><br> <<a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD#Finding_the_Code" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD#Finding_the_Code</a>><br><br><br>Not any more today:<br><br>host git.fedoraproject.org. ns1.fedoraproject.org.<br><br> => Host git.fedoraproject.org. not
found: 3(NXDOMAIN)<br><br><br>If this loss is permanent then please fix the wiki page?<br><br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Marc<br><br><br>Note: I could fix my old checkouts like this:<br> git remote set-url origin git://git.fedorahosted.org/git/livecd<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 10:16:27 -0500<br>From: Bruno Wolff III <<a ymailto="mailto:bruno@wolff.to" href="/mc/compose?to=bruno@wolff.to">bruno@wolff.to</a>><br>Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Backporting livecd-tools to f13?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:20100803151627.GF10972@wolff.to" href="/mc/compose?to=20100803151627.GF10972@wolff.to">20100803151627.GF10972@wolff.to</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br><br>I was asked to get 033 into f13. Since Iam on vacation now and
I<br>think we'll be doing another path rollup in a few weeks I'd rather<br>wait for that before doing this.<br>Besides the timing, there is the issue of what we want to backport. The<br>easiest is to just do an f13 build of the same source. At this point<br>I don't think there is a problem with that. (If lzma were to become the<br>default for f14, we wouldn't that in f13.) But we also have the option<br>to cherry pick stuff.<br><br>What are people's views on this?<br><br>(Don't be surprised if I don't add much to this conversation until after<br>I get back next week.)<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 5<br>Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 08:44:34 -0700<br>From: Jasper Hartline <<a ymailto="mailto:jasper.hartline@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jasper.hartline@gmail.com">jasper.hartline@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Backporting livecd-tools to f13?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org"
href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br> <AANLkTikBCp8Ufm2Q=ci-N6L_0gzb_cfo3S950=<a ymailto="mailto:_n_4HN@mail.gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=_n_4HN@mail.gmail.com">_n_4HN@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>I'd be mostly interested in the update to 033-3 to allow people using<br>Fedora 13 hosts to build<br>Live media of RAWHIDE/F14a from RAWHIDE or F14 TC1 repositories, and so on.<br><br><br>On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Bruno Wolff III <<a ymailto="mailto:bruno@wolff.to" href="/mc/compose?to=bruno@wolff.to">bruno@wolff.to</a>> wrote:<br>> I was asked to get 033 into f13.<br>> Besides the timing, there is the issue of what we want to backport. The<br>> easiest is to just do an f13 build of the same source. At this point<br>> I don't think there is a problem with
that.<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 6<br>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 17:12:21 +0100<br>From: Marc Herbert <<a ymailto="mailto:Marc.Herbert@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=Marc.Herbert@gmail.com">Marc.Herbert@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] [PATCH] Fixed buggy [[ "$DEV" =~<br> "/dev/loop*" ]] tests with new isdevloop() function<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:4C583FE5.6060007@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=4C583FE5.6060007@gmail.com">4C583FE5.6060007@gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15<br><br>This was accidentally working in old bash versions, not anymore in<br>Fedora 13's bash 4.1.7. Now using proper prefix matching instead of<br>the previous regex matching disguised as pattern matching.<br><br><br>---<br>
tools/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh | 13 +++++++++----<br> 1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)<br><br>diff --git a/tools/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh b/tools/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh<br>index f4d0855..846fa73 100755<br>--- a/tools/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh<br>+++ b/tools/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh<br>@@ -39,10 +39,15 @@ exitclean() {<br> exit 1<br> }<br> <br>+isdevloop()<br>+{<br>+ [ x"${1#/dev/loop}" != x"$1" ]<br>+}<br>+<br> getdisk() {<br> DEV=$1<br> <br>- if [[ "$DEV" =~ "/dev/loop*" ]]; then<br>+ if isdevloop "$DEV"; then<br> device="$DEV"<br> return<br> fi<br>@@ -65,7 +70,7 @@ getdisk() {<br> }<br> <br> resetMBR() {<br>- if [[ "$DEV" =~ "/dev/loop*" ]]; then<br>+ if isdevloop "$DEV"; then<br> return<br>
fi<br> getdisk $1<br>@@ -94,7 +99,7 @@ resetMBR() {<br> }<br> <br> checkMBR() {<br>- if [[ "$DEV" =~ "/dev/loop*" ]]; then<br>+ if isdevloop "$DEV"; then<br> return 0<br> fi<br> getdisk $1<br>@@ -124,7 +129,7 @@ checkPartActive() {<br> if [ "$dev" = "$device" ]; then<br> return<br> fi<br>- if [[ "$dev" =~ "/dev/loop*" ]]; then<br>+ if isdevloop "$dev"; then<br> return<br> fi<br> <br>-- <br>1.7.2<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 7<br>Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 11:58:36 +0100<br>From: Marc Herbert <<a ymailto="mailto:Marc.Herbert@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=Marc.Herbert@gmail.com">Marc.Herbert@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re:
[Fedora-livecd-list] [PATCH] Fixed buggy [[ "$DEV" =~<br> "/dev/loop*" ]] tests with new isdevloop() function<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID: <i3bh4s$uqs$<a ymailto="mailto:1@dough.gmane.org" href="/mc/compose?to=1@dough.gmane.org">1@dough.gmane.org</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br>Le 03/08/2010 17:12, Marc Herbert a ?crit :<br>> This was accidentally working in old bash versions, not anymore in<br>> Fedora 13's bash 4.1.7. Now using proper prefix matching instead of<br>> the previous regex matching disguised as pattern matching.<br><br>This broke due to a documented change in bash. More details here:<br><br> <a href="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.shells.bash.bugs/15080" target="_blank">http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.shells.bash.bugs/15080</a><br><br>Or
better: do not bother reading and avoid advanced, non-portable<br>and evolving bash features when basic features are enough (= apply my<br>patch).<br><br><br>Note: even without considering this change in bash, the previous code was<br>confusing patterns and regular expressions and working by chance.<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 8<br>Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 15:13:10 +0100<br>From: Marc Herbert <<a ymailto="mailto:Marc.Herbert@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=Marc.Herbert@gmail.com">Marc.Herbert@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] xforcevesa?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID: <i3bshm$a50$<a ymailto="mailto:1@dough.gmane.org" href="/mc/compose?to=1@dough.gmane.org">1@dough.gmane.org</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br><br>Hi,<br><br> Is there a Fedora
equivalent to the "xforcevesa" boot parameter?<br><br>If there is none I will probably need some day to port the Ubuntu<br>one. Would this of interest to Fedora?<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Marc<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 9<br>Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 08:35:48 -0700<br>From: Jasper Hartline <<a ymailto="mailto:jasper.hartline@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jasper.hartline@gmail.com">jasper.hartline@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] xforcevesa?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br> <<a ymailto="mailto:AANLkTikptyWKUtf-Z2ABanpe4dx4AD2zj6S8q8cHo1pQ@mail.gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=AANLkTikptyWKUtf-Z2ABanpe4dx4AD2zj6S8q8cHo1pQ@mail.gmail.com">AANLkTikptyWKUtf-Z2ABanpe4dx4AD2zj6S8q8cHo1pQ@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Marc Herbert <<a ymailto="mailto:Marc.Herbert@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=Marc.Herbert@gmail.com">Marc.Herbert@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> Hi,<br>><br>> ?Is there a Fedora equivalent to the "xforcevesa" boot parameter?<br><br>Anaconda has xdriver where you can specify VESA, e.g. xdriver=vesa<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 10<br>Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:59:38 +0100<br>From: Marc Herbert <<a ymailto="mailto:Marc.Herbert@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=Marc.Herbert@gmail.com">Marc.Herbert@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] xforcevesa?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID: <i3c69r$hre$<a ymailto="mailto:1@dough.gmane.org"
href="/mc/compose?to=1@dough.gmane.org">1@dough.gmane.org</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br>Le 04/08/2010 16:35, Jasper Hartline a ?crit :<br>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Marc Herbert <<a ymailto="mailto:Marc.Herbert-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org" href="/mc/compose?to=Marc.Herbert-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org">Marc.Herbert-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Hi,<br>>><br>>> Is there a Fedora equivalent to the "xforcevesa" boot parameter?<br>> <br>> Anaconda has xdriver where you can specify VESA, e.g. xdriver=vesa<br><br>Thanks Jasper,<br><br> I am actually only interested in the liveCD where "xdriver" does not seem<br>to be implemented.<br><br>How hard would it be to port xdriver from the installer? Easier than<br>Ubuntu's xforcevesa I
guess?<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Marc<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 11<br>Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:07:11 -0700<br>From: Jasper Hartline <<a ymailto="mailto:jasper.hartline@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jasper.hartline@gmail.com">jasper.hartline@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] xforcevesa?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br> <AANLkTin6kG6z7PqC+v9u_YOVTFFzQ=<a ymailto="mailto:SffQmuoiGEncGh@mail.gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=SffQmuoiGEncGh@mail.gmail.com">SffQmuoiGEncGh@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Marc Herbert <<a ymailto="mailto:Marc.Herbert@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=Marc.Herbert@gmail.com">Marc.Herbert@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> ?I am actually only
interested in the liveCD where "xdriver" does not seem<br>> to be implemented.<br>><br>> How hard would it be to port xdriver from the installer? Easier than<br>> Ubuntu's xforcevesa I guess?<br><br>vga=ask or vga=<code> are kernel VESA BIOS modes that you can use on<br>the livecds.<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers</a><br><br>I am not sure what xforcevesa does really so I am not sure if it is an<br>equivalent<br>or can be ported. The above would work on any 2.6 kernel presumably.<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 12<br>Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 21:21:05 -0700<br>From: Jasper Hartline <<a ymailto="mailto:jasper.hartline@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jasper.hartline@gmail.com">jasper.hartline@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Extlinux has no Ext4
support, nor BTRFS<br> - What about Grub?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br> <AANLkTikK-og=igw8RhU_0c0fHkVLmC5efCYOJp6CH+<a ymailto="mailto:T0@mail.gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=T0@mail.gmail.com">T0@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>Anyone have any idea how to handle this:<br><a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=563527" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=563527</a><br><br>I would like to hear some ideas, especially from the current active<br>project lead.<br>It seems May of 2009 is the last time this repository was committed to:<br><a href="http://git.zytor.com/?p=users/liu/devel.git;a=summary" target="_blank">http://git.zytor.com/?p=users/liu/devel.git;a=summary</a><br><br>Which
from what I can tell is the head of where Extlinux will support Ext4.<br>Seems stale.<br><br>Have we thought about going ahead and using Grub instead?<br>We can't ignore this.<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 13<br>Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:14:13 +0100<br>From: Marc Herbert <<a ymailto="mailto:Marc.Herbert@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=Marc.Herbert@gmail.com">Marc.Herbert@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] xforcevesa?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Cc: Jasper Hartline<br> <<a ymailto="mailto:public-jasper.hartline-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@lo.gmane.org" href="/mc/compose?to=public-jasper.hartline-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@lo.gmane.org">public-jasper.hartline-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@lo.gmane.org</a>><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:4C5AAB15.7050403@gmail.com"
href="/mc/compose?to=4C5AAB15.7050403@gmail.com">4C5AAB15.7050403@gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br>> vga=ask or vga=<code> are kernel VESA BIOS modes that you can use on<br>> the livecds.<br>> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers</a><br><br>I think these are ignored by Xorg.<br><br><br>>> Is there a Fedora equivalent to the "xforcevesa" boot parameter?<br>> <br>> Anaconda has xdriver where you can specify VESA, e.g. xdriver=vesa<br>> [...]<br>> I am not sure what xforcevesa does really <br><br><br>"xforcevesa" forces Xorg to use the VESA driver. Please note and<br>admire the unusual feat of a terse boot paramater doing exactly what<br>its name says. You would typically combine this with "nomodeset"<br><br><<a
href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Installer" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Installer</a> options (user-land)><br><br>The main visible effect of xforcevesa is to simply generate a dummy<br>xorg.conf file with a "Driver vesa" line. This happens early, even<br>when booting in single user mode. Dunno about the rest, if any.<br><br>xforcevesa is (part of?) what Ubuntu calls "Safe Graphics Mode",<br>codenamed <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX</a>. Google will find a lot<br>of pages about it.<br><br>xforcevesa applies to (Ubuntu) live images (unlike xdriver=vesa? Disappointing)<br><br>Would "Fedora live" have any interest in such a feature? It looks very useful<br>to me. Especially since Intel increased "commitment" in Xorg.<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 14<br>Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 06:54:38 -0700<br>From: Jasper
Hartline <<a ymailto="mailto:jasper.hartline@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jasper.hartline@gmail.com">jasper.hartline@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] xforcevesa?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br> <AANLkTimF=4t+qKxpw=tpVcrN3-HDUwx5M=NFRwq=<a ymailto="mailto:WVQ7@mail.gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=WVQ7@mail.gmail.com">WVQ7@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>When I said I am not sure what it does, I was referring to it's actual<br>operations.<br>Not it's purpose. What software does and it's purpose are sometimes<br>two different things.<br>Look at bugs as a good example.<br><br>On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Marc Herbert <<a ymailto="mailto:Marc.Herbert@gmail.com"
href="/mc/compose?to=Marc.Herbert@gmail.com">Marc.Herbert@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> I am not sure what xforcevesa does really<br>><br>><br>> "xforcevesa" forces Xorg to use the VESA driver. Please note and<br>> admire the unusual feat of a terse boot paramater doing exactly what<br>> its name says. You would typically combine this with "nomodeset"<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 15<br>Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 16:26:31 +0100<br>From: Marc Herbert <<a ymailto="mailto:Marc.Herbert@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=Marc.Herbert@gmail.com">Marc.Herbert@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] UDF filesystem for the ISO image?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID: <i3el78$e8j$<a ymailto="mailto:1@dough.gmane.org"
href="/mc/compose?to=1@dough.gmane.org">1@dough.gmane.org</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br>Le 30/07/2010 17:51, Bruno Wolff III a ?crit :<br>>> Now here is the crazy idea: would it be feasible to get the best of<br>>> both worlds by switching to a read-write filesystem like UDF for<br>>> instance?<br>> <br>> The os image is imbedded in a squashfs image so you are still stuff with<br>> read only for that part.<br><br>It's OK, I am only interested in writing to the "root" filesystem.<br><br><br>> UDF actually gets used for images over 4 GiB instead of iso8660.<br><br>Great, thanks for the tip. I forced UDF unconditionally in live.py<br>and then hit this problem:<br> UDF-fs: Partition marked readonly; forcing readonly mount<br><br>Then I found this in "man mkisofs":<br> "UDF support is currently in alpha status"<br><br>The following quote
looks like a good summary:<br> <a href="http://syslinux.zytor.com/archives/2006-February/006504.html" target="_blank">http://syslinux.zytor.com/archives/2006-February/006504.html</a><br> "With mkisofs, I cannot write; with mkudffs, I apparently cannot<br> boot. Or is there a way out?<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 16<br>Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 19:44:34 -0700 (PDT)<br>From: Jerry Babione <<a ymailto="mailto:jerry.babione@att.net" href="/mc/compose?to=jerry.babione@att.net">jerry.babione@att.net</a>><br>Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora is going away in my Office. I'll<br> use Ubunto.<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:977561.77750.qm@web83713.mail.sp1.yahoo.com"
href="/mc/compose?to=977561.77750.qm@web83713.mail.sp1.yahoo.com">977561.77750.qm@web83713.mail.sp1.yahoo.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Locking out the places other than Fedora Project links in the initial load is insane. You have to use another PC to get Email including those from the project.? Thanks but no thanks Fedora.<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <a href="http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/livecd/attachments/20100805/e3987381/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/livecd/attachments/20100805/e3987381/attachment-0001.html</a> <br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 17<br>Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 23:40:59 -0400 (EDT)<br>From: Scott Dowdle <<a ymailto="mailto:dowdle@montanalinux.org" href="/mc/compose?to=dowdle@montanalinux.org">dowdle@montanalinux.org</a>><br>Subject: Re:
[Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora is going away in my Office.<br> I'll use Ubunto.<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br> <<a ymailto="mailto:7040843.68.1281066059021.JavaMail.root@mail.montanalinux.org" href="/mc/compose?to=7040843.68.1281066059021.JavaMail.root@mail.montanalinux.org">7040843.68.1281066059021.JavaMail.root@mail.montanalinux.org</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br><br>Greetings,<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>> Locking out the places other than Fedora Project links in the initial<br>> load is insane. You have to use another PC to get Email including<br>> those from the project. Thanks but no thanks Fedora.<br><br>Oh, if it were only true... if I could just ignore your post and let you wonder off into Ubuntu paradise. But
no... I have to ask you what you are talking about. So, what *ARE* you talking about?<br><br>I'm thinking I really don't want to know.<br><br>TYL,<br>-- <br>Scott Dowdle<br>704 Church Street<br>Belgrade, MT 59714<br>(406)388-0827 [home]<br>(406)994-3931 [work]<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 18<br>Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 03:46:07 -0700<br>From: Jasper Hartline <<a ymailto="mailto:jasper.hartline@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jasper.hartline@gmail.com">jasper.hartline@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Request to maintainer to commit these<br> patches<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br> <AANLkTi=S-juED9SFH-L9=<a ymailto="mailto:PaYLyYPxkv324BNY08C6_t0@mail.gmail.com"
href="/mc/compose?to=PaYLyYPxkv324BNY08C6_t0@mail.gmail.com">PaYLyYPxkv324BNY08C6_t0@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>Hello. Here are two patches which I think could be committed, if<br>anyone wants to pull git<br>and patch it up with them and send ACK or failure I think it will help<br>in speeding up the process for the current maintainers<br>to be able to commit these changes along with gzip.patch which Bruno<br>said will be included in the next rollup<br>of livecd-creator. Bruno, your thoughts?<br><br>Here are two that look like they could go in (including gzip.patch<br>which is already in the SRPM):<br><br>BUG: SELinux Bug #519709<br>PATCH: <a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=436610&action=diff&context=patch&collapsed=&headers=1&format=raw"
target="_blank">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=436610&action=diff&context=patch&collapsed=&headers=1&format=raw</a><br>RELATED: <a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=575424" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=575424</a><br><br><br>BUG: Enable use of NETINST ISO when doing ISO to DISK patch Bug #604942<br>PATCH: <a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=424664&action=diff&context=patch&collapsed=&headers=1&format=raw" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=424664&action=diff&context=patch&collapsed=&headers=1&format=raw</a><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 19<br>Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 05:27:35 -0700<br>From: Jasper Hartline <<a ymailto="mailto:jasper.hartline@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jasper.hartline@gmail.com">jasper.hartline@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject:
[Fedora-livecd-list] Extlinux has no Ext4 support, nor BTRFS<br> - What about Grub?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br> <AANLkTimotZuAr6XqaFnaKbWskuU5cOFF2Fxst_hyt+<a ymailto="mailto:ky@mail.gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=ky@mail.gmail.com">ky@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>Nevermind.<br>syslinux 4.02 for F-14 is being built and will make it into F14 most likely.<br>This will allow us to apply the patches for RFE:<br><a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=563527" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=563527</a><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 20<br>Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 20:12:49 +0200<br>From: Mads Kiilerich <<a ymailto="mailto:mads@kiilerich.com"
href="/mc/compose?to=mads@kiilerich.com">mads@kiilerich.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] xforcevesa?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Cc: Marc Herbert <<a ymailto="mailto:Marc.Herbert@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=Marc.Herbert@gmail.com">Marc.Herbert@gmail.com</a>><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:4C5EF3A1.9070204@kiilerich.com" href="/mc/compose?to=4C5EF3A1.9070204@kiilerich.com">4C5EF3A1.9070204@kiilerich.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed<br><br> Marc Herbert wrote, On 08/04/2010 06:59 PM:<br>> Le 04/08/2010 16:35, Jasper Hartline a ?crit :<br>>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Marc Herbert<<a ymailto="mailto:Marc.Herbert-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org"
href="/mc/compose?to=Marc.Herbert-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org">Marc.Herbert-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org</a>> wrote:<br>>>> Hi,<br>>>><br>>>> Is there a Fedora equivalent to the "xforcevesa" boot parameter?<br>>> Anaconda has xdriver where you can specify VESA, e.g. xdriver=vesa<br>> Thanks Jasper,<br>><br>> I am actually only interested in the liveCD where "xdriver" does not seem<br>> to be implemented.<br>><br>> How hard would it be to port xdriver from the installer? Easier than<br>> Ubuntu's xforcevesa I guess?<br><br>I guess that should be a general Fedora feature? Something that <br>overrules the automatic driver detection based on the rules in <br>/usr/share/hwdata/videoaliases/ ?<br><br>How and where is xforcevesa implemented?<br><br>/Mads<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 21<br>Date: Mon, 09 Aug
2010 16:00:46 +0200<br>From: Thorsten Leemhuis <<a ymailto="mailto:fedora@leemhuis.info" href="/mc/compose?to=fedora@leemhuis.info">fedora@leemhuis.info</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] xforcevesa?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:4C600A0E.4000101@leemhuis.info" href="/mc/compose?to=4C600A0E.4000101@leemhuis.info">4C600A0E.4000101@leemhuis.info</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br>Mads Kiilerich wrote on 08.08.2010 20:12:<br>> [...]<br>> I guess that should be a general Fedora feature?<br><br>In case anybody is interested: I was in the need to foce Vesa in the<br>past and added below *hack* to a kickstart file somewhere in the<br>fedora-live-base.ks section between<br>|cat > /etc/rc.d/init.d/livesys-late << EOF<br>and<br>|EOF<br>to make "xdriver=vesa"
work on the livecd.<br><br>CU<br>knurd<br><br>P.S.: Yes, it has bugs (hardcoded german keyboard and only works with<br>"vesa"), that's why I called it a hack earlier ;-)<br><br>"""<br># configure X, allowing user to override xdriver<br>if [ "\$xdriver" == "vesa" ]; then<br> cat > /etc/X11/xorg.conf <<FOE<br># Xorg configuration created by system-config-display<br>Section "ServerLayout"<br> Identifier "Default Layout"<br> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0<br> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"<br>EndSection<br><br>Section "InputDevice"<br># keyboard added by system-config-display<br> Identifier "Keyboard0"<br> Driver "kbd"<br> Option "XkbModel" "pc105"<br> Option
"XkbLayout" "de"<br>EndSection<br><br>Section "Device"<br> Identifier "Videocard0"<br> Driver "\$xdriver"<br>EndSection<br><br>Section "Monitor"<br> Identifier "Monitor0"<br> HorizSync 30-69<br> VertRefresh 60-75<br>EndSection<br><br>Section "Screen"<br> Identifier "Screen0"<br> Device "Videocard0"<br> Monitor "Monitor0"<br> SubSection "Display"<br> Modes "1024x768" "800x600"<br> EndSubSection<br>EndSection<br>FOE<br>fi<br>"""<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 22<br>Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:24:14 -0500<br>From: Bruno Wolff III <<a ymailto="mailto:bruno@wolff.to"
href="/mc/compose?to=bruno@wolff.to">bruno@wolff.to</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Request to maintainer to commit<br> these patches<br>To: Jasper Hartline <<a ymailto="mailto:jasper.hartline@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jasper.hartline@gmail.com">jasper.hartline@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: <a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:20100811162414.GA14195@wolff.to" href="/mc/compose?to=20100811162414.GA14195@wolff.to">20100811162414.GA14195@wolff.to</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br><br>On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 03:46:07 -0700,<br> Jasper Hartline <<a ymailto="mailto:jasper.hartline@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jasper.hartline@gmail.com">jasper.hartline@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Hello. Here are two patches which I think could be committed,
if<br>> anyone wants to pull git<br><br>I'll take a look over the weekend. I am still catching up and managed to get<br>sick after getting back.<br><br>We definitely could use another committer or two. (In addition to a lot<br>more reviewers.)<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>--<br>livecd mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="/mc/compose?to=livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org">livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br><a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/livecd" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/livecd</a><br><br>End of livecd Digest, Vol 64, Issue 2<br>*************************************<br></div></blockquote></div></td></tr></table>