Helping to improve advertising of test days and other things
Jiri Eischmann
eischmann at redhat.com
Tue Aug 21 14:41:26 UTC 2012
Arnav Kalra píše v Út 21. 08. 2012 v 00:11 +0530:
> I have a netbook which i can use for this purpose. How can i help?
When there is a test day just join us and participate. You can also test
Fedora any time during the test cycle and report problems to bugzilla.
Jiri
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Jiri Eischmann
> <eischmann at redhat.com> wrote:
> Arnav Kalra píše v Po 20. 08. 2012 v 22:28 +0530:
> > Maybe we should release virtualbox/vmware images so that
> people can
> > easily test fedora. Is fedora on Google plus? If yes then we
> can
> > schedule events on Google plus and send invites.
>
>
> The problem is that many test days require testing on bare
> metal,
> they're usually the most important ones (power management,
> graphics
> drivers,...). But it might be useful for others.
> Fedora is on G+, but I have no idea who is in charge of the
> account.
>
> Jiri
>
> > On Aug 20, 2012 8:21 PM, "Jiri Eischmann"
> <eischmann at redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> > Robyn Bergeron píše v Pá 17. 08. 2012 v 12:13 -0700:
> > > Hey,
> > >
> > > So, I was just hanging out in the weekly kernel
> meeting on
> > IRC, and
> > > asked how their virtual fad for kernel regression
> testing
> > went, and
> > > heard that they had incredibly low turnout, and it
> was also
> > noted that
> > > test days in general kind of have low or less than
> we'd like
> > to have
> > > turnout. Which seems like something we can help
> with, in a
> > few ways:
> > >
> > > #1: Work with the QA team to help them figure out
> how to get
> > information
> > > to us so that we can get it out to various
> channels -
> > twitter, facebook,
> > > etc. - and what information we'd need and when.
> > >
> > > A lot of times, it seems like testing might sound
> > daunting/"not for me"
> > > when in reality, it might be easy or take 5
> minutes or etc.
> > So maybe
> > > things we could ask for would be...
> > >
> > > * How long does this take?
> > > * Is this "easy", "hard," ... what skills do you
> need?
> > > * Is this a "you just need a USB key and a way to
> download"
> > or is this
> > > potentially going to destroy your system?
> > >
> > > For the kernel regression virtual fad - which
> wasn't really
> > a test day -
> > > as an example, it's (a) got the word "kernel" in
> it, which I
> > think
> > > automatically makes a lot of people say "uhoh, not
> for me,"
> > even though
> > > there may have been ways for them to participate.
> > >
> > > Anyway: it seems like something we could add value
> to - just
> > with
> > > something like, "Send us your info a week in
> advance, we'll
> > work up some
> > > tweets or content and help drive folks back to
> you."
> > >
> > > #2: See if there are additional things we could
> produce that
> > can help
> > > people get acquainted with the idea or process of
> testing.
> > >
> > > Maybe a video how-to? Not really sure here what
> would be
> > valuable -
> > > would be something to reach out to the QA folks
> about.
> > >
> > > #3: Josh Boyer added in the kernel meeting that it
> would be
> > cool to just
> > > have a "Boot the rawhide kernel today. Does it
> work? Tell us
> > why or why
> > > not" type of thing - I don' tknow if that would be
> targeted
> > as a once a
> > > week type thing, or what. Maybe this would be an
> interesting
> > thing to
> > > tackle - how can we help them make this sound less
> > daunting/more
> > > friendly, get the word out, and have fun with it?
> Maybe a
> > quick
> > > screencast of how to walk through this type of
> thing from
> > start to finish?
> > >
> > > Thoughts, comments? Anyone willing to reach out to
> either QA
> > or the
> > > kernel folks to pick their brains on this one?
> >
> > I've been thinking about how to improve test days
> promotion
> > for some
> > time. A few thoughts:
> >
> > If we want to have more people testing Fedora we
> need to have
> > appropriate infrastructure first. Frankly, wiki is
> not
> > scalable for
> > receiving test results. It's OK if you have 10-15
> participants
> > throughout the day, but it's PIA if you have more.
> There were
> > about 40
> > people participating in the power management test
> day and they
> > had
> > serious problems to submit results (conflicts all
> the time).
> > Not
> > mentioned that for some people, editing wiki is not
> very
> > friendly. I
> > spoke about this with the QA guys so much that they
> started
> > working on
> > some submitting system, but it's just at the
> beginning and
> > doesn't have
> > a high priority for them.
> >
> > Real (not online) events might be worth exploring.
> We did it
> > for the F17
> > power management test day during our office's open
> house. It
> > was by far
> > the most attended test day and people were enjoying
> testing
> > Fedora
> > together and with people that have the best insight
> in to the
> > area (our
> > power management engineers in this case).
> >
> > We have to talk about them more. People that
> represent Fedora
> > should
> > blog about it, talk about it at conferences, post
> > announcements at
> > national community sites etc. If I and Jaroslav
> Reznik attend
> > a general
> > Linux conference in our region we propose a talk
> "How To
> > Contribute to
> > Fedora Project" and it's mostly about test days
> because
> > testing is an
> > entry level contribution everyone can do. We go
> through test
> > cases with
> > people and show them it's actually quite easy to
> take part in
> > test days.
> > And we tell them that testing prior to the final
> release is
> > very
> > important.
> >
> > Red Hat opened an intern position in Brno office for
> someone
> > who would
> > coordinate test days promotion. Unfortunately, they
> haven't
> > yet found a
> > good fit, a student who is a Fedora enthusiast and
> interested
> > in
> > testing.
> >
> > Jiri
> >
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