<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Christoph Wickert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:christoph.wickert@googlemail.com">christoph.wickert@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Am Mittwoch, den 14.10.2009, 17:35 +0200 schrieb Gregory Zysk:<br>
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> There is a problem with measuring downloads though, it does not give<br>
> us a realistic number of how many people actually use Fedora.<br>
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</div>We do have smolt data for that:<br>
<a href="http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/static/stats/stats.html" target="_blank">http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/static/stats/stats.html</a><br>
<div class="im"><br>
> It goes for the same ranking system on<br>
> <a href="http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity" target="_blank">http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity</a>. These popularity<br>
> rankings are just based off of downloads and just give us data to<br>
> reflect just that: downloads.<br>
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</div>And you think distrowatch is more representative? I don't think so.<br></blockquote><div><br>>>> It is representative for downloads, or at least some of them. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Distrowatch is counting visitors by user agent strings. Ask yourself:<br>
Who visits distrowatch? </blockquote><div><br>>>>I did!! That is how I cam to using Fedora. That is how everyone I know has referred me to and the same way they came to using FOSS.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Likely somebody who is looking for a new distro<br>
to try. So are these people really happy with their distro or even<br>
convinced of it? </blockquote><div><br>>>>This is accomplished by separate surveys or sampling techniques.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
This is something the numbers cannot show.<br></blockquote><div><br>>>>Once a methodology and research design is set in place. These numbers will show exactly what you have created them to be. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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By counting uniqe visits, you wont get numbers of OS installations or<br>
users, because you don't know how often people visit that site. There<br>
are people who say the number of Fedora installs is actually larger than<br>
the number of Ubuntu installations, but quite a lot of them are servers<br>
running in data centers [1]. They will never show up at distrowatch<br>
because servers usually don't visit that site. ;)<br></blockquote><div><br>>>>This from an objective point of view is just opinion. You ask an Ubuntu user and they will say they have the most. You ask a person who works for microsoft who has the best OS? Don't be surprised if they say: microsoft.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Christoph<br>
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[1] Just look at the high number of virtual machines in smolt.<br>
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