<div dir="ltr">Hi Nelson<br>I think that you should see this <a href="http://fedora-art.org">fedora-art.org</a><br>I sent <a href="http://opendesktop.org">opendesktop.org</a> an email, and they've done it.<br><br>Regards<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 22 April 2010 19:52, Nelson Marques <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:07721@ipam.pt">07721@ipam.pt</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Hi all,<br>
<br>
I thought over in many things and I do recognize some problems that<br>
might be related to people not enrolling with communities like our. I<br>
would like to propose the following (though I could prepare a decent<br>
document, I'd rather take this approach first).<br>
<br>
Fedora 13 is going live soon, and honestly everyone should be committed<br>
to it, but once F13 is live, it is expected that maybe in the upcoming<br>
months after the release there's too much to do still. So maybe the best<br>
time is to trigger this around July. At that time people should be<br>
preparing for vacations and so on (at least the youth, which is probably<br>
the main audience for this).<br>
I am not sure when the theme is going to be decided and specially by<br>
whom for Fedora 14, but this makes sense to be done right after such is<br>
accomplished.<br>
<br>
What I would like to do:<br>
<br>
Launch a challenge in existing artist communities through a cooperation<br>
protocol between Fedora and those communities, for some quick examples:<br>
<br>
* <a href="http://opendesktop.org" target="_blank">opendesktop.org</a> (<a href="http://gnome-look.org" target="_blank">gnome-look.org</a>, <a href="http://kde-look.org" target="_blank">kde-look.org</a>, etc);<br>
* <a href="http://deviantart.com" target="_blank">deviantart.com</a><br>
* <a href="http://gnome.org" target="_blank">gnome.org</a> and <a href="http://kde.org" target="_blank">kde.org</a> (?? this people are most likely buried with<br>
work already)<br>
* suggestions from current artists<br>
<br>
This challenge should be a "call to arms" oriented campaign in which<br>
artists are invited to produce artwork for Fedora Project. As things are<br>
not going to be much random, this is what I though that is going to be<br>
needed:<br>
<br>
#1 - Fedora 14 Theme > this has to be decided prior.<br>
#2 - A document that provides guidelines for participants to comply<br>
(this should be accomplished by the Fedora Design Team, as it's their<br>
field of action/expertise).<br>
#3 - A place where artists can submit their work. (this shouldnt be too<br>
complicated and I would suggest to use a wiki page for this).<br>
#4 - Licensing for submitted artwork (this is for sure something I have<br>
no knowledge, I believe that eventually there are people here who have<br>
done similiar things in the past, so selecting and highlighting such<br>
would be great).<br>
#5 - A committee to analyze the submitted artwork. We can run this as<br>
Fedora or eventually also invite people from other communities, such as<br>
GNOME, KDE, etc. If this artwork is going to be enabled by Fedora and<br>
distributed for KDE/GNOME, makes sense to me to have someone from their<br>
project on this also. See such option as strengthening bonds between us<br>
and them.<br>
#6 - A proper Marketing/Communication campaign for this. We should be<br>
able to reach everyone.<br>
#7 - Decide what kind of artwork we want (ex: GNOME Meta Themes, KDE<br>
themes, Icon Themes, wallpapers, videos ?).<br>
#8 - Some Ambassadorial support work. I would recon that _current_<br>
artists who are ambassadors should have a key role here. As artists they<br>
might be enrolled on other existing communities, they for sure talk the<br>
same language as other artists and know how to attract people in a more<br>
effective way than we can at Marketing. As for standard non-artist<br>
Ambassadors, I believe they can help a lot also, as running such project<br>
is mainly Public Relations work (something I suck at).<br>
<br>
Some doubts:<br>
<br>
- If we run such campaign, who decides if we can include or not<br>
community based artwork? Can we freely include on F14 some extra stuff<br>
that we get from such a campaign ?<br>
<br>
- The tools... we are promoting open source, but if we scroll through<br>
Deviant Art for instance, there is work which is distributed with a<br>
friendly license, but is generated in maybe non-friendly software, such<br>
as OS X platforms and eventually not GIMP/Inkscape stuff. Should we<br>
apply restrictions and check for headers and traces of non-oss in the<br>
submitted artwork?<br>
<br>
- I would like submitters to place their artwork in place where FAS<br>
registration is demanded. In the rush of submitting their work, they<br>
will go through that step with some "pleasure". If such is done, with a<br>
single group apply (ex: design-team) and joining a mailling list, their<br>
approach as a potential Fedora contributor is basically done. This could<br>
be explored.<br>
<br>
- Ice breaking... People who might want to submit artwork will be for<br>
sure in contact with some of our people. For example we can probably<br>
forward them for a "help list" for this event or existing list such as<br>
design-team to clear some doubts. Doing such will place them directly in<br>
contact with Fedora Teams and will work as a Ice Breaker. This should<br>
probably make their possible integration in the future much easier, as<br>
they will start having friendly voices around.<br>
<br>
- Motivation - Fedora is supposed to be installed in 24 million<br>
computers worldwide (or so some say). This is a kick-ass distribution<br>
channel for artists. It should provide enough motivation for them to<br>
participate (if we are friendly with rules).<br>
<br>
- Marketing Involvement > I'm not sure how many people face this, but<br>
this is a typical marketing promotion campaign. It does require some<br>
work and free time. I'm making myself available for this and I can nag<br>
my employer to give me 5 hours weekly to work on this, plus my free<br>
time.<br>
<br>
- Ambassadorial Work > I'm not sure on how this can be done, so some<br>
feedback from Ambassadors is welcome, and eventually we can see how we<br>
can help each other. Even between the involved departments/teams of<br>
Fedora in such, their work as moderators and promoters should be a must.<br>
<br>
- Cost/Benefits Relation > This should be positive for everyone<br>
involved. I'm not sure how design team faces such initiative... Fedora<br>
Design is very important, and this should be an accessory for their<br>
work, and of course a way to reinforce their ranks in number and gather<br>
more contributors/artists for Fedora Artwork/Design Teams. That should<br>
be our greatest benefict, plus providing a wider set or artwork on the<br>
release. Get more people signed on FAS in a friendly way. Break the Ice<br>
between Fedora and possible contributors. On the costs side... This is<br>
will require time and effort from at least: Ambassadors, Marketing,<br>
Design/Artwork and other teams of Fedora such as QA, packaging, etc. I<br>
would say that 20 submissions for Meta-Themes would be already a great<br>
win and would reward us all.<br>
<br>
For the rest, this is a very superficial approach, but if there is<br>
interest from Fedora on this, I will turn this into a more in-depth<br>
document and more objective.<br>
<br>
I believe we can try to do something different here and try to enlarge<br>
our community a bit, plus providing a bit more of community<br>
contributions.<br>
<br>
All the problems have solutions, we just need to identify them and work<br>
them out. I believe we have enough time between now and Fedora 14 theme<br>
selection to work out this in a way that we can kick in fast and<br>
aggressive soon after the main art theme is selected.<br>
<br>
I really would love to ear everyone's view about this, their own ideas<br>
on how to make better, their concerns, their critics... everything...<br>
only in possession of such information we can have a strong basis to<br>
work out soemthing like this.<br>
<br>
From my personal point, I'm willing to place 10 hours/week for such<br>
project and report to Marketing every single week about what has been<br>
achieved.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Nelson.<br>
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--<br>
Nelson Marques<br>
Evil Clown (<a href="http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/evilclown.htm" target="_blank">http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/evilclown.htm</a>)<br>
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