I have a netbook which i can use for this purpose. How can i help?<br><br clear="all">Regards,<br>Arnav Kalra<br>104, Sector 14<br>Karnal - 132001<br>Mobile - +91 9896961018<br>Home - +91 184 4030104<br><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Jiri Eischmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eischmann@redhat.com" target="_blank">eischmann@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Arnav Kalra píše v Po 20. 08. 2012 v 22:28 +0530:<br>
<div class="im">> Maybe we should release virtualbox/vmware images so that people can<br>
> easily test fedora. Is fedora on Google plus? If yes then we can<br>
> schedule events on Google plus and send invites.<br>
<br>
</div>The problem is that many test days require testing on bare metal,<br>
they're usually the most important ones (power management, graphics<br>
drivers,...). But it might be useful for others.<br>
Fedora is on G+, but I have no idea who is in charge of the account.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Jiri<br>
</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
> On Aug 20, 2012 8:21 PM, "Jiri Eischmann" <<a href="mailto:eischmann@redhat.com">eischmann@redhat.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> Robyn Bergeron píše v Pá 17. 08. 2012 v 12:13 -0700:<br>
> > Hey,<br>
> ><br>
> > So, I was just hanging out in the weekly kernel meeting on<br>
> IRC, and<br>
> > asked how their virtual fad for kernel regression testing<br>
> went, and<br>
> > heard that they had incredibly low turnout, and it was also<br>
> noted that<br>
> > test days in general kind of have low or less than we'd like<br>
> to have<br>
> > turnout. Which seems like something we can help with, in a<br>
> few ways:<br>
> ><br>
> > #1: Work with the QA team to help them figure out how to get<br>
> information<br>
> > to us so that we can get it out to various channels -<br>
> twitter, facebook,<br>
> > etc. - and what information we'd need and when.<br>
> ><br>
> > A lot of times, it seems like testing might sound<br>
> daunting/"not for me"<br>
> > when in reality, it might be easy or take 5 minutes or etc.<br>
> So maybe<br>
> > things we could ask for would be...<br>
> ><br>
> > * How long does this take?<br>
> > * Is this "easy", "hard," ... what skills do you need?<br>
> > * Is this a "you just need a USB key and a way to download"<br>
> or is this<br>
> > potentially going to destroy your system?<br>
> ><br>
> > For the kernel regression virtual fad - which wasn't really<br>
> a test day -<br>
> > as an example, it's (a) got the word "kernel" in it, which I<br>
> think<br>
> > automatically makes a lot of people say "uhoh, not for me,"<br>
> even though<br>
> > there may have been ways for them to participate.<br>
> ><br>
> > Anyway: it seems like something we could add value to - just<br>
> with<br>
> > something like, "Send us your info a week in advance, we'll<br>
> work up some<br>
> > tweets or content and help drive folks back to you."<br>
> ><br>
> > #2: See if there are additional things we could produce that<br>
> can help<br>
> > people get acquainted with the idea or process of testing.<br>
> ><br>
> > Maybe a video how-to? Not really sure here what would be<br>
> valuable -<br>
> > would be something to reach out to the QA folks about.<br>
> ><br>
> > #3: Josh Boyer added in the kernel meeting that it would be<br>
> cool to just<br>
> > have a "Boot the rawhide kernel today. Does it work? Tell us<br>
> why or why<br>
> > not" type of thing - I don' tknow if that would be targeted<br>
> as a once a<br>
> > week type thing, or what. Maybe this would be an interesting<br>
> thing to<br>
> > tackle - how can we help them make this sound less<br>
> daunting/more<br>
> > friendly, get the word out, and have fun with it? Maybe a<br>
> quick<br>
> > screencast of how to walk through this type of thing from<br>
> start to finish?<br>
> ><br>
> > Thoughts, comments? Anyone willing to reach out to either QA<br>
> or the<br>
> > kernel folks to pick their brains on this one?<br>
><br>
> I've been thinking about how to improve test days promotion<br>
> for some<br>
> time. A few thoughts:<br>
><br>
> If we want to have more people testing Fedora we need to have<br>
> appropriate infrastructure first. Frankly, wiki is not<br>
> scalable for<br>
> receiving test results. It's OK if you have 10-15 participants<br>
> throughout the day, but it's PIA if you have more. There were<br>
> about 40<br>
> people participating in the power management test day and they<br>
> had<br>
> serious problems to submit results (conflicts all the time).<br>
> Not<br>
> mentioned that for some people, editing wiki is not very<br>
> friendly. I<br>
> spoke about this with the QA guys so much that they started<br>
> working on<br>
> some submitting system, but it's just at the beginning and<br>
> doesn't have<br>
> a high priority for them.<br>
><br>
> Real (not online) events might be worth exploring. We did it<br>
> for the F17<br>
> power management test day during our office's open house. It<br>
> was by far<br>
> the most attended test day and people were enjoying testing<br>
> Fedora<br>
> together and with people that have the best insight in to the<br>
> area (our<br>
> power management engineers in this case).<br>
><br>
> We have to talk about them more. People that represent Fedora<br>
> should<br>
> blog about it, talk about it at conferences, post<br>
> announcements at<br>
> national community sites etc. If I and Jaroslav Reznik attend<br>
> a general<br>
> Linux conference in our region we propose a talk "How To<br>
> Contribute to<br>
> Fedora Project" and it's mostly about test days because<br>
> testing is an<br>
> entry level contribution everyone can do. We go through test<br>
> cases with<br>
> people and show them it's actually quite easy to take part in<br>
> test days.<br>
> And we tell them that testing prior to the final release is<br>
> very<br>
> important.<br>
><br>
> Red Hat opened an intern position in Brno office for someone<br>
> who would<br>
> coordinate test days promotion. Unfortunately, they haven't<br>
> yet found a<br>
> good fit, a student who is a Fedora enthusiast and interested<br>
> in<br>
> testing.<br>
><br>
> Jiri<br>
><br>
><br>
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