[Fedora-music-list] Spin Approval

Jørn Lomax northlomax at gmail.com
Wed Dec 5 15:30:25 UTC 2012


On 12/05/2012 03:16 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 5 December 2012 10:34, Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12/05/2012 11:32 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/04/2012 01:46 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am Dienstag, den 04.12.2012, 08:29 +0100 schrieb Brendan Jones:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/02/2012 10:11 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>>>>>
>
>>>>> Is there a right way to do this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Brendan,
>>>>
>>>> I'm afraid there is no really right way unless it gets configurable in
>>>> firstboot.
>>>>
>>>>> I tried to find one but I couldn't see
>>>>> an option in kickstart to make this happen. I could probably provide a
>>>>> patch to firstboot (I think this would be really useful) but obviously
>>>>> it will be too late for this release.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's definitely too late for this release and I doubt such a patch would
>>>> be accepted as it has no use case outside this spin.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fair enough
>
> Well, maybe a way to add further configuration to firstboot might be
> generically useful, but either way too late for this release, and
> would need to be subject to translation etc. anyway.
>
>>>>> Alternatively we could add this to %post in jack-audio-connection-kit
>>>>> but I'm not sure if this is considered safe in a critical-path package
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is not considered safe in *any* package. You must not own or modify
>>>> files that are owned by another package (unless of course your package
>>>> is a configuration utility and the file in question is a config file)
>>>> and if you absolutely have to, you have to do it in the inscript so that
>>>> the changes only apply to the live system but don't end up on the
>>>> installed system.
>>>
>>>
>>> I meant creating the group in %post (not editing a file owned by
>>> firstboot). But the problem of assigning group membership still remains.
>>>
>>> Alternatively, we could package something which gets kicked off via
>>> xdg/autostart that could detect this and request sudo priveledges to add
>>> the X user to the group. All really messy and too late now.
>>>
>
> The general question of how a spin might be customised while still
> staying within Fedora is perhaps something that needs to go to the
> devel list. I'll ask, I'm sure no-one there is at all busy right
> now... ;)
> Being able to do this is fairly important to a spin that aims to
> present the best of audio tools to users. Plan B I suppose is a list
> of post-install instructions on the wiki, but that doesn't really do
> much for the stereotype of linux being a build-it-yourself system. It
> may actually be damaging to release a spin that wasn't done right.
>
> I do wonder if there's a systemd / seat based solution to this, will
> raise that on the devel list.
>

When it comes to the spin, I'm thinking of making an program that is run 
on boot that checks to see if you are in the correct groups, probably 
going to add it to the jam-control app. Then it can ask the user if it 
wan't to join the audio/jackuser groups if the user is not a member




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