Please can you give an example of a patent which is violated in the *core* of ffmpeg.<br><br>Salsaman.<br clear="all"><br><a href="http://lives.sourceforge.net">http://lives.sourceforge.net</a><br><a href="https://www.ohloh.net/accounts/salsaman">https://www.ohloh.net/accounts/salsaman</a><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Jarod Wilson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jarod@redhat.com">jarod@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class="h5">On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 05:34:34AM -0300, salsaman wrote:<br>
> Hi all,<br>
> I am the main developer/maintainer of LiVES (<a href="http://lives.sourceforge.net" target="_blank">http://lives.sourceforge.net</a>).<br>
><br>
> I recently noticed the information about LiVES on this page:<br>
> <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WishList#L-M" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WishList#L-M</a><br>
><br>
> The information give about LiVES is inaccurate/incorrect. First of all,<br>
> LiVES is not dependant on ffmpeg. As in, you can perfectly well build and<br>
> run the application without ffmpeg being present on either the build system<br>
> or the end user system.<br>
><br>
> However, the ffmpeg libraries are recommended for end users, since LiVES<br>
> will make indirect use of them (via mplayer) for decoding some video<br>
> formats, and via mencoder for encoding some video formats.<br>
><br>
> I fail to see the reason for this to be sufficient cause for crossing out<br>
> LiVES. A long time ago, ffmpeg contained some allegedly patented code (AAC<br>
> audio IIRC), however this code was removed from the core of ffmpeg at least<br>
> 5 years ago. However it seems that the FUD (and that is indeed what it is)<br>
> persists. Microsoft must be laughing hard at this one.<br>
><br>
> If you don't believe me, then how is it that both ffmpeg and LiVES are in<br>
> debian testing and unstable ? Please check for yourselves, and contact the<br>
> debian legal team if you are still in doubt.<br>
><br>
> It is particularly timely that I noticed this, as I would like to introduce<br>
> the new packager for LiVES in Fedora, Harry Rickards (<a href="mailto:harry@linux.com">harry@linux.com</a>).<br>
> Harry is also the point of contact between LiVES and the debian multimedia<br>
> team who are responsible for packaging LiVES for debian.<br>
><br>
> I hope that you will correct the information on the wishlist page, stop<br>
> spreading (unintentional ?) FUD about ffmpeg, and most importantly give<br>
> Harry every assistance with the Fedora LiVES packages.<br>
<br>
</div></div>You're woefully mistaken if you think all patent-encumbered code has been<br>
removed from ffmpeg. Debian doesn't have a singular US corporate entity<br>
backing it like Fedora does. Red Hat legal has been down this road, and<br>
there's no way ffmpeg can be in Fedora, due to the number of US patents<br>
that its pretty well guaranteed to infringe upon. This isn't an<br>
endorsement of patents, just a practical matter. There are multiple<br>
3rd-party package repositories for Fedora that carry ffmpeg packages<br>
though, as well as a good amount of software that utilize ffmpeg<br>
(including LiVES in at least one of said repos, iirc).<br>
<br>
--<br>
Jarod Wilson<br>
<a href="mailto:jarod@redhat.com">jarod@redhat.com</a><br>
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