Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

[Bohuslav Kabrda]

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> > I will. Do you have any idea who I should talk to regarding EPEL? Is it
> > also Dennis?
> >
> Also dennis.  Rel-eng is growing as a group so you could also put in
> a ticket/go to one of their weekly meetings but Dennis is probably still the
> one that knows the most about koji and buildroots.

Thanks, I'll talk to him.

> > > > I think this solution makes sense for *applications* that need to be
> > > > built
> > > > both in Fedora and in EPEL. Note that it'd also align with my
> > > > EPEL-python3
> > > > proposal [1], in case such an app was to be moved to python3X in EPEL
> > > > (%default_python would just be redefined to "python3X"). I also think
> > > > that
> > > > this approach should never be allowed for packaging "libraries", e.g.
> > > > packages that have python-foo and python3-foo subpackages.
> > > > 
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > 
> > > If we were to use different macro names instead of overwriting currently
> > > well known ones I think this has merit.
> > 
> > For me, introducing yet another set of macros is unnecessary. I think that
> > it'd introduce a long(-ish) new part of guidelines that'll make them even
> > more complicated than they are right now (compared to one new macro
> > function and rules on how/when to use it).
> >
> Nick's breakdown of the three desired states seems like a non-complex way to
> organize things.  And explicit being a good thing is also a winner for me.
> In addition to my original arguments that bashing existing macro names in
> some spec files but not in all of them is a bad thing to force packagers to
> have to deal with.
> 
> tangentially, when speaking about long-ish, though, could we use something
> shorter than default_python?  Maybe syspython to follow Nick's usage of
> "System Python"?

I don't really feel strongly about this, I agree that your solution has a merit (and syspython *is* better than default_python :)). I think I'll open an FPC ticket to ask FPC for their opinions on this and then I'll start taking concrete steps [1] ;) to get this done.

> -Toshio

Slavek

[1] http://www.sevenstarconcrete.com/images/exposed_double_stair_case.jpg