<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:8pt"><div>Fedora Server Folks,</div><div> </div><div>I think the group needs to focus on making things easier for 100% RPM Installs. RPM is the package manager for Fedora so applications SHOULD be deployable with 100% RPM-based installs and NOT require another system to get them running or configure them (e.g. chef, puppet, CFengine).</div><div> </div><div>Here's a short list of things that I would like and would be rather easy to implement.</div><div> </div><div> - Any daemon can be started and running with a "-on" package (e.g. httpd-on) just a wrapper with chkconfig on + service start</div><div> - /etc/fstab.d/ capability</div><div> - Moving /etc/yum.repos.d/*.repo files from fedora-release to an independent package that can optionally not be installed
in the kickstart. THIS IS A BIG SECURITY PET PEEVE OF MINE. </div><div> </div><div>>> * Database server (both free and commercial).<br clear="none">>> s/commercial/proprietary/ I guess ?</div><div><div> </div><div>We really need to fix the Oracle instant client mess. SpaceWalk tried but why can't Fedora make a really great wrapper RPM so that it just works. I'm sure most of you will say why can't Oracle just make good RPMs. I have my own wrapper but why make it so hard. Same with Perl-DBD-Oracle. This is a political effort more than technical. But, these are the kinds of things, I think, this group needs to work on. I am not proposing that Fedora host Oracle RPMs (wrong license) but work with Oracle to fix it for everyone in one place and just make it easy.</div><div> </div><div><div>>> * Simplify management and
deployment.[1]</div><div> </div><div>Bottom line I think Fedora should provide the running building block or even full running applications like TurnKey Linux with a nice default configuration. e.g. I need a running webserver "yum install httpd-on". I need a running database "yum install postgresql-server-on".</div><div> </div><div>So, a web application spec simply requires: postgresql-server-on httpd-on and done!</div><div> </div><div>Thanks</div></div><div>Mike</div> </div><div>mrdvt92</div> </div></body></html>