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On Apr 24, 2014 11:08 AM, "Stephen Gallagher" <<a href="mailto:sgallagh@redhat.com">sgallagh@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On 04/23/2014 09:35 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:<br>
> > Hi! As it seems, Fedora.Next and product planning leads also to<br>
> > changes how Fedora is produced and how it's going to be distributed<br>
> > to our users.<br>
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> > For this, we need to collect product deliverables, so needed<br>
> > changes for release engineering can be planned (and implemented)<br>
> > and as I was talking to Dennis, we're are currently blocked on it.<br>
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> > I created rel-eng ticket - WGs, please, try to sum up required<br>
> > changes there (in consumable way), so we have it in one place (for<br>
> > possible overlaps in requirements etc).<br>
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> > <a href="https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5891">https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5891</a><br>
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> Before we submit this to the rel-eng ticket, we should come to a<br>
> consensus on exactly what we plan to ship in F21.<br>
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> - From the Technical Specification[1]:<br>
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> Fedora Server will run on and provide install media for i686, x86_64,<br>
> and armv7hl servers.<br>
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> There will be two official install media for the Fedora Server:<br>
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> * A network installation media (either a traditional netinst.iso or a<br>
> <a href="http://boot.fedoraproject.org">boot.fedoraproject.org</a> style)<br>
> * A local installation media providing the default package set as well<br>
> as any featured roles that are meaningfully installed without a<br>
> network connection.<br>
> * The local installation media will be allowed a maximum size to fit<br>
> on a 4.0GB USB device.<br>
> * The local installation media can be pointed at network resources<br>
> to make available a larger package set.<br>
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> We previously deferred the plans on what type of network-install media<br>
> we would support. I think it's probably time to bring that back up<br>
> now. The local installation media should be pretty straightforward.<br>
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> - From previous discussions with Dennis Gilmore (CCed) it sounds to me<br>
> that our ISO-creation tools will build a network-install tree as a<br>
> side-effect, so if I understand correctly, we should be able to use<br>
> the classic netinst.iso or virt-install simply pointed at the Fedora<br>
> Server install tree as well. If this is the case, I'd suggest that we<br>
> should probably ship a netinst.iso that points at the Fedora Server tree.<br>
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> > Currently, Alpha Change Deadline is planned for no earlier than<br>
> > 2014-07-22, it's not as far as it sounds, especially if changes in<br>
> > releng are needed. So let's try to work this out as soon as<br>
> > possible.<br>
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> > I suppose, in the end, FESCo should approve requested changes in<br>
> > product deliverables. So once requirements are collected, I'll<br>
> > create (yet another) ticket for FESCo. Or even better - as Cloud<br>
> > did - Change proposal would be the best solution, even after the<br>
> > submission deadline.<br>
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> <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server/Technical_Specification#Supported_Architectures_and_Install_Media">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server/Technical_Specification#Supported_Architectures_and_Install_Media</a><br>
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<p dir="ltr">I'd also like to see publicized kickstart (templates?) that will produce a given role with minimal site customization. We can cover the tweaking required in the book Zach has been considering.</p>
<p dir="ltr">--Pete</p>