<p dir="ltr">Hello Corey</p>
<p dir="ltr">I'm having a bit of a problem with the concept. When you say organize packages differently. do you mean that if you went to the Package Manager </p>
<p dir="ltr">On 05/20/2015 01:58 PM, Corey Leong wrote:<br>
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> Greetings Matthew --<br>
><br>
> That's a negative. No package defaults will be changed from their defaults. The overall intention is the organization of the software and, perhaps, how they are presented to the user. I am interested in organizing by users' psychological needs rather than the typical applications categories. I focused on security first since physiological needs obviously do not exist in a digital space which contradicts Maslow's HoN. For example, security, safety, social, design, etc would be application categories rather than office, system, utilities, for instance, which need ergonomic improvement, in my opinion. Simply, same fedora software with all original defaults, but organized in an alternative and improved application taxonomy for users for promoting online citizenship.<br>
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> For the scope section's appearance, I was not certain how to address this since trademarking and marketing will play roles in the spin, at least according to the original spin process doc. I've always considered the Sugar on a Stick a wonderful theme especially for kids so perhaps a citizen type theme would be an ideal for Netizen. I have not begun to develop a citizen theme since I have been waiting since January for my spin to be wrangled while also waiting for some type of feedback. I am open to working with marketing for a fitting theme, Matthew, or providing one myself, if need be.<br>
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> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> --Corey<br>
><br>
> PS I would concur that the published spin process is broken, as suggested by another on this list.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quot<blockquote class=" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Greetings Matthew --<br><br></div>That's a negative. No package defaults will be changed from their defaults. The overall intention is the organization of the software and, perhaps, how they are presented to the user. I am interested in organizing by users' psychological needs rather than the typical applications categories. I focused on security first since physiological needs obviously do not exist in a digital space which contradicts Maslow's HoN. For example, security, safety, social, design, etc would be application categories rather than office, system, utilities, for instance, which need ergonomic improvement, in my opinion. Simply, same fedora software with all original defaults, but organized in an alternative and improved application taxonomy for users for promoting online citizenship.<br><br></div>For the scope section's appearance, I was not certain how to address this since trademarking and marketing will play roles in the spin, at least according to the original spin process doc. I've always considered the Sugar on a Stick a wonderful theme especially for kids so perhaps a citizen type theme would be an ideal for Netizen. I have not begun to develop a citizen theme since I have been waiting since January for my spin to be wrangled while also waiting for some type of feedback. I am open to working with marketing for a fitting theme, Matthew, or providing one myself, if need be.<br><div><br></div><div>Thanks,<br><br></div><div>--Corey<br><br></div><div>PS I would concur that the published spin process is broken, as suggested by another on this list.<br></div><div><br><div><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Matthew Miller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mattdm@fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">mattdm@fedoraproject.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 02:56:46PM -0400, Corey Leong wrote:<br>
> The change request page can be found here:<br>
> <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Netizen_Spin" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Netizen_Spin</a><br>
> The spin page is located here:<br>
> <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Netizen_Spin" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Netizen_Spin</a><br>
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</span>I assume that this spin would involve shipping some software in Fedora<br>
with defaults significantly other than their defaults overall or in<br>
Fedora Workstation. If so, let's talk about that.<br>
<br>
Right now, the "scope" section suggests that this will primarily be an<br>
_appearance_ thing — or at least, look-and-feel. I'm afraid that this<br>
might actually be somewhat deceptive, if that's the case — people might<br>
assume that the goal is similar to that of stand-alone distributions<br>
aimed at privacy/anonymity, like Tails.<br>
<span><font color="#888888"><br>
--<br>
Matthew Miller<br>
<<a href="mailto:mattdm@fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">mattdm@fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
Fedora Project Leader<br>
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