<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Greetings David --<br><br></div>Thanks for the concern. The organization I am proposing is in two parts: within the kickstart file which should not be an issue, I believe, and two, within the app launcher menu. I expect dnf, yum, and the software management tool to operate as usual for users without any issues.<br><br></div><div>An alternate way of thinking may take be needed, however, I intend to keep it as simple as possible.<br></div><div><br></div><div>--Corey<br></div><div><br><br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:30 PM, David Green <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crokett@gmail.com" target="_blank">crokett@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hello Corey<br>
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I'm having a bit of a problem with the concept. When you say
organize packages differently. do you mean that if you went to the
Package Manager software would be grouped according to Maslow's
hierarchy, rather than the normal Security, Office, etc? If so I
would think this is going to be confusing to a lot of people to find
what packages they need.<br>
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David Green<div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div>Greetings Matthew --<br>
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That's a negative. No package defaults will be changed from
their defaults. The overall intention is the organization of
the software and, perhaps, how they are presented to the user.
I am interested in organizing by users' psychological needs
rather than the typical applications categories. I focused on
security first since physiological needs obviously do not
exist in a digital space which contradicts Maslow's HoN. For
example, security, safety, social, design, etc would be
application categories rather than office, system, utilities,
for instance, which need ergonomic improvement, in my opinion.
Simply, same fedora software with all original defaults, but
organized in an alternative and improved application taxonomy
for users for promoting online citizenship.<br>
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For the scope section's appearance, I was not certain how to
address this since trademarking and marketing will play roles in
the spin, at least according to the original spin process doc.
I've always considered the Sugar on a Stick a wonderful theme
especially for kids so perhaps a citizen type theme would be an
ideal for Netizen. I have not begun to develop a citizen theme
since I have been waiting since January for my spin to be
wrangled while also waiting for some type of feedback. I am open
to working with marketing for a fitting theme, Matthew, or
providing one myself, if need be.<br>
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<div>Thanks,<br>
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<div>--Corey<br>
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<div>PS I would concur that the published spin process is
broken, as suggested by another on this list.<br>
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Matthew Miller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mattdm@fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">mattdm@fedoraproject.org</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 02:56:46PM -0400, Corey
Leong wrote:<br>
> The change request page can be found here:<br>
> <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Netizen_Spin" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Netizen_Spin</a><br>
> The spin page is located here:<br>
> <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Netizen_Spin" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Netizen_Spin</a><br>
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</span>I assume that this spin would involve shipping some
software in Fedora<br>
with defaults significantly other than their defaults
overall or in<br>
Fedora Workstation. If so, let's talk about that.<br>
<br>
Right now, the "scope" section suggests that this will
primarily be an<br>
_appearance_ thing — or at least, look-and-feel. I'm afraid
that this<br>
might actually be somewhat deceptive, if that's the case —
people might<br>
assume that the goal is similar to that of stand-alone
distributions<br>
aimed at privacy/anonymity, like Tails.<br>
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