Games doesent work in Fedora test 3
Bjorn Andersen
ba at linuxin.dk
Fri Oct 24 09:43:45 UTC 2003
The problem was solved. It was the XFree86-Mesa-libGL making trouble.
After uninstalling with "rpm -e XFree86-Mesa-libGL --nodeps" evrything
works fine. And I think that making Videogames working under
RedHat/Fedora is the ONLY way to get Linux out to the masses...
NO homeuser will ever touch Linux if they cant play!
Regards
Bjorn Andersen
Mike A. Harris skrev:
>On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Bjorn Andersen wrote:
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>>>Oh we can care, but we can't do much about it, since we don't write the
>>>nvidia binary drivers. Nvidia has never supported beta releases of
>>>Linux distributions. Fedora Core is still in beta. Once Fedora Core 1
>>>is released, then you can expect some support from Nvidia, and have a
>>>better argument when you contact nvidia for help. Until then, tough.
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>>Hmmm, its 75% of all OpenGL games that doesent work. I dont think thats
>>an Nvidia problem.
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>I'm not sure spending resources on making video games work in
>Linux is the most useful use of Red Hat engineering resources.
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>Video games will work better in Linux when there are more people
>interested in video games working better spending their personal
>time to volunteer to debug video drivers, etc. so that the games
>run better.
>
>Alternatively, a company who thinks that video games in Linux are
>a viable and attractive business model might decide to invest
>money into making video game infrastructure better.
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>Until either of those things happen, video games in Linux are
>nothing more than an extremely small hobbiest/enthusiast niche.
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>That's the business reality of things anyway. I'd love to see
>video games work rock solid on all video hardware in Linux, but
>that's not going to happen without a large number of volunteer
>programmers getting their fingers dirty with gdb and debugging
>DRI problems when they have them with OpenGL games, and
>submitting patches.
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>As for the proprietary driver side of things, well 3D games in
>Linux wont be much of a reality until both video game companies
>and video hardware companies both decide to improve the situation
>because they see a viable business opportunity. To date that
>hasn't happened, and every single video game company that has
>produced Linux versions of their games, has done so either at a
>revenue loss, or has done so more or less as a charity thing
>because they think Linux is just too cool to not make their game
>available for. id Software, and Crack.com come to mind
>immediately for the latter category. I believe both companies
>have stated publically they've never made enough money off of
>Linux games to cover the costs involved with producing the game.
>Someone would have to search google for quotes however.
>
>Games are cool, but not essential to business or the enterprise.
>
>It's up to computer geeks such as ourselves to fix the problems
>ourselves with our spare time as volunteers who care about games
>working in Linux, if we want the situation to change.
>
>Personally, I'd love to spend a week or 2 nonstop hacking on
>various DRI problems I see reported in games, but I can only
>really justify doing that in my own personal spare time, and I
>don't really have very much personal spare time. The DRI project
>is always looking for new volunteers however, and anyone who
>thinks they can contribute is welcome to come and join our Monday
>IRC meetings on #dri-devel on irc.freenode.net and to lurk in the
>channel the rest of the week asking questions when developers are
>around. Usually myself, MrCooper, anholt are there, and
>sometimes "idr" and others. If we're not too busy, we're often
>happy to lend a helping hand to an enthusiastic positive minded
>person who has their X server sitting in gdb, and is poking
>printk()s in the kernel DRM driver. ;o)
>
>Also, I posted recently to xfree86-list that I spend some of my
>spare time unfortunately having to vacuum my house, do the
>dishes, and other cleaning tasks/chores... If someone were to
>come over on Saturday/Sunday and do this for me, it could free up
>hours and hours of DRI debugging time. ;o)
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>/me runs
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