Should Fedora rpms be signed?
nphilipp at redhat.com
Sun Oct 31 18:32:38 UTC 2004
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 14:55 +0100, Matias Féliciano wrote:
> Le dimanche 31 octobre 2004 à 13:35 +0100, Nils Philippsen a écrit :
> > On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 12:45 -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
> > As outlined above, the process of signing repo metadata and the process
> > of signing individual packages isn't that much different in that it
> > needs someone or -thing to do the signing. I think signing repo metadata
> > is good to augment the signing of packages in that someone certifies a
> > specific set of packages, which is a benefit if you e.g. think of some
> > bad guy trying to inject a (signed) iptables package into a mirror
> > repository that by whatever problem wouldn't work together with the
> > kernel already in there.
> A "Conflict" field in the rpm is a better solution.
A "Conflict" field is only a reactive solution, i.e. you need to know
about the issue (and those with malicious intent won't tell you about
it ;-). Signing repo metadata is a proactive measure that might prevent
such scenarios even in the case when we don't know about such a
> > On the other hand the argument that we should use the presence of a (Red
> > Hat) signature as a measure of quality is rather moot in my eyes as I
> > have had a number of my packages out there with great difference in
> > quality and all of them signed, even with a non-Rawhide key ;-). We have
> > to teach the people who think about the signature being a sign of
> > quality instead of origin about its real meaning, we shouldn't conform
> > to their ill views.
> There is _nothing_ that describe Test release and Rawhide. Nothing.
> Red Hat did a brilliant job in describing what Fedora is (section About
> of fedora.redhat.com).
> Red Hat may describe Test release and Rawhide.
> These informations may also be in the fedora-release package.
Here's my 2p:
Rawhide is constantly in flux and its quality is variant -- anything
between "quite good" and "eats your hamster" is possible.
A test release is a snapshot of Rawhide where we try to not break too
many things before, i.e. we usually have a freeze before a test release
where the release managers permit fixes and only controlled new features
between the freeze and release of the snapshot.
Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com
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