Where is runlevel 5?

[Michal Jaegermann]

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 08:02:45PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 21:18 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > 
> > http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/braindump/oss-happens.html
> > 
> > Another example of the Vogon effect :-).
> 
> No, not really. It's not the Vogon effect. This is a very public,
> very open project; the use of systemd has been discussed
> extensively on this list, and on -test list, and is listed in the
> Alpha release notes - it's the very first item under 'what's new'
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Alpha_release_notes#Better_System_and_Session_Management
> - and the Alpha release announcement -
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_Alpha_release_announcement -
> again it's the first item.

OK, let's try this "first item" in its entirety.

  Fedora 14 introduces systemd, a smarter, more efficient way of
  starting up and managing background daemons and services. It is
  a drop-in replacement for sysvinit and upstart, maintaining
  compatibility with SysV and LSB init scripts.

Ahem!  So far AFAICT "smarter, more efficient" are quite far from
being demonstrated,  "drop-in" is debatable and "maintaining
compatibility" in the curent state it certainly is not. So where
this leaves us?  Searching bugzilla for systemd and reading through
search results can be an enlightening experience.

One way around these issues would be to make sure that /sbin/upstart
is installed and booting with 'init=/sbin/upstart' in kernel
parameters.  Of course then you are not testing systemd.  OTOH
adding '5' there may just work (maybe).

    Michal