2010-07-12 - Fedora QA meeting recap

[James Laska]

As always, IRC transcript and minutes available on the wiki at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20100712

= Attendees =

People present (lines said):

      * jlaska (133)
      * wwoods (121)
      * adamw (67)
      * j_dulaney (66)
      * kparal (29)
      * Viking-Ice (25)
      * jskladan (11)
      * tertl3 (11)
      * dafrito (6)
      * vaschenb (6)
      * fedbot (4)
      * zodbot (3)
      * Southern_Gentlem (1)

Regrets:
      * [[User:liam|liam]]
      * [[User:rhe|rhe]]

= Agenda =
      * Proposed meeting agenda -
        http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-July/092024.html
      * MeetBot summary -
        http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-07-12/fedora-qa.2010-07-12-15.00.html

== Previous meeting follow-up ==
     1. jlaska to cleanup (or remove) the Critical Path
        Packages#Background section so that it provides _some_ value
              * Content updated at
                http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_Path_Packages#Background
     2. j_dulaney to draft a combined proventesters / joinproventesters
        wiki page for list review
              * Saved discussion for the proventesters topic
     3. wwoods to evaluate nss-softokn dependency problem for proper
        'depcheck' coverage
              * http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-July/138478.html

== Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1 ==

Owner - [[User:jlaska]]
Summary
      * Per task#4 on the fedora-qa schedule
        [http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-14/f-14-quality-tasks.html], a rawhide acceptance test run was scheduled for 2010-07-09.
      * See https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3842, images built
        on Jul 12, 2010.
Next steps ...
      * Testing underway, results posted to
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_14_Pre-Alpha_Rawhide_Acceptance_Test_1
      * Test summary will be sent to test at lists.fedoraproject.org

== Fedora 14 Install Matrix Review ==
Owner - [[User:rhe]]
Summary
      * Updated Fedora 14 install test plan
        (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_14_Install_Test_Plan)
        and test matrix
        (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_14_Install_Results_Template)
      * The proposed pages will be used to test Fedora 14
Next steps ...
      * Feedback encouraged.  Please review test plan and matrix.

== Proventester Update ==

Owner - [[User:Maxamillion]], [[User:Adamwill]]
Summary
      * Adam Miller announced that the proventesters wiki page
        ([[QA/JoinProvenTesters]]) is no longer a draft.  
      * There are several TRAC requests to join the ''proventesters''
        group.  
      * [[User:Adamwill]] drafted ''proventester'' instructions and sent
        to the list for review.
      * Several draft documents were out for review:
              * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_proventesters
              * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dafrito/Proven_tester
              * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jdulaney/Proven_Tester
Next steps
      * Team chose the adamwill draft as final version
      * Research generating recurring critpath+proventester metrics

== AutoQA PUATP ==

Owner - [[User:wwoods]]
Summary
      * In order to automate the
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Package_Update_Acceptance_Test_Plan, wwoods proposed prioritizing the following autoqa milestones
              * depcheck -
                https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Package%
                20Update%20Acceptance%20Test%20Plan%20-%20depcheck
              * multi-hook test support -
                https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Multi-hook%
                20tests
              * Finalize test base class patchset -
                https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2010-July/000815.html
              * Finalize label patchset -
                https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2010-July/000820.html
      * The team agreed with the proposed focus, and would begin to
        carve up tickets
Next steps...
      * Start picking up tickets in the above milestones

= Open discussion - <Your topic here> =

== Reporting bugs upstream vs fedora bugzilla ==

Owner - [[User:Johannbg]]
Summary
      * Asked for QA to make a decision on a debate from devel@
        regarding whether bugs should be submitted against Fedora, or
        against the upstream project.
      * Expressed concerns for time wasted by bug reports and
        maintainers if some bugs are not tracked in Fedora, but upstream
Next steps...
      * Not enough time for discussion, and no consensus reached.
      * Continue discussion on list

= Upcoming QA events =

      * 2010-07-08 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1
      * 2010-07-15 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2
      * 2010-07-22 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3
      * 2010-07-23 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #1
      * 2010-07-30 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #2

= Action items =

     1. adamw to talk with lmacken about generating recurring email
        reports on proventester

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