Not too impressed with the quality of F14 at this time

[Phil Savoie]

On 12/09/10 12:09 AM, David wrote:
> On 9/11/2010 11:44 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
>>  On 09/11/2010 11:27 PM, David wrote:
>>> Wow! That is a large number of problems. Perhaps if you go away again
>>> and then come back in, say, another month or two, perhaps three, these
>>> problems will be all be worked out by others that actually do the
>>> testing and everything will be to your liking.
>> David, I've been one of the people "that actually do the testing" for
>> many years.
>>
>> There are 1,085 bugs at bugzilla.redhat.com that were reported by me.
>> It's probably not true any more, but at one point I had reported more
>> bugs against Red Hat Linux (take note, before Fedora existed) than
>> anyone who wasn't an employee of Red Hat.
>>
>> I don't know whether you report bugs into bugzilla under multiple email
>> addresses, but if not, then I note with some interest that, in contrast,
>> there are a grand total of /four/ bugs in bugzilla reported by
>> dgboles at gmail.com.
>>
>> I have a "Red Hat Beta Team" T shirt. Do you? Just curious.
>>
>> It is also worth noting that many of the bugs I've reported have patches
>> attached to them... also submitted by me.
>>
>> It is hard for me to imagine a scenario in which your response to me is
>> appropriate or one in which you are someone who in a position to
>> legitimately speak to me that way. Frankly, that would be true if my
>> previous message was the first I'd ever sent to this mailing list and I
>> had never submitted a bug to bugzilla. There is nothing to gain from
>> responding with such rudeness and hostility to legitimate feedback.
>>
>> I hope you can pry your foot out of your mouth for long enough to
>> apologize to the entire list for the way you just spoke to me. If not, I
>> will have no choice but to defend myself on the list by resending this
>> message to it rather than privately to you. I'd imagine that an
>> apparently unsolicited apology from you for speaking inappropriately to
>> someone who was trying to help would be a lot less humiliating to you
>> than for everyone to see this message.
>>
>>   Jonathan Kamens
>>
> 
> A personal email that complains of my 'attack'?  :-)  You, personally,
> perhaps did not deserve what I considered as a satirical reply to a
> 'whine' type post. That was the impression that I got from your post. A
> 'whine'.
> 
> I will accept your claim of a long history as a tester on your word. Why
> not since I don't really care? As well as your claim of a long history
> as a bug reporter. Again why not since I don't really care?
> 
> I can understand that these supposed problems are important to you.
> Notice the 'to you'. But since no one else seems to have reported them
> just how would you expect that these might have been fixed when only you
> seem to have these problems and you have:
> 
> /quote/
> 
> (I've been unsubscribed for a month or so because of other business
> consuming all my time, so forgive me if I'm beating a dead horse.)
> 
> /unquote/
> 
> But you are correct. I should have just ignored your 'whine' post.
> 
> Fair enough?
> 
> Have a nice day.

I wonder, when going through doorways, David, if you have a hard time
scraping what appears to be a very large head without doing damage to
your ears?

Jonathan was right your answer was entirely inappropriate.


Have a nice day.

Phil