My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

[Adam Williamson]

On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 12:16 -0700, Alan wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 22:44 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 09:47 +0600, Angel wrote:
> > 
> > > If you click the network icon of the panel then Network Settings, that
> > > ´s the different thing (dumbed down to absolute worthlessness).
> > 
> > yeah - it's so worthless you can only connect to a typical wired or
> > wireless network configuration, y'know, like probably 80-90% of all
> > network connections ever. I do wish people would be less absurdly
> > extremist about everything. 'It doesn't yet cover my particular use
> > case' is not the same thing as 'worthless'.
> 
> If you can't change anything it is not very useful.  You can turn it on
> and off and that is it.  If you need to change the IP address or give it
> a fixed IP address or anything else you have to use a different app that
> is not installed by default.  (And which requires, oddly enough, a
> working network.)

That's not accurate. The entry 'Network Settings...' at the bottom of
the network applet menu launches the control center Network applet,
where you can do static IP address configuration. The Shell applet and
the control center applet are designed to work together.

> My current problem with networking is that it drops the default route
> after a while.  (If I let it sit over night, for example.)  It does not
> seem to matter if the connection is actively being used or not. (It was
> hard enough to get it to create a default route with a fixed IP address.
> That part got fixed in a recent update. It still drops after a while.)
> 
> If wanting it to actually work and be useful is "extreme", then yes.  I
> dislike the idea that in order to appeal to new users you have to remove
> any and all ability to configure things so they won't get "confused"
> distasteful in the extreme.

This is a weirdly resilient meme which rarely has anything to do with
reality. There is no intention to 'remove any and all ability to
configure things' in the GNOME 3 network configuration design.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net