F18 beta experience under VM

[Adam Williamson]

On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 08:44 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 12/03/2012 01:19 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > That's an equally confusing bug report.:)  Could you please state
> > precisely what steps you took and what results you saw? This is more
> > useful and reliable than just saying what you think happened, because
> > part of the agreed-upon problem here is that not everyone is clear on
> > exactly what is actually happening in custom part.
> 
> -I checked "I don't need help; let me customize disk partitioning."
> -Clicked on "Reclaim space" button.
> -Clicked on plus button on existing F18 installation.
> -Clicked on the "Boot" 500MB partition.
> -Clicked on "Customize..."
> -Clicked on "Reformat"
> -Clicked on "Apply Changes"
> 
> At this point my "Boot" partition disappears.

At no point in all that did you actually assign a mount point to it. I
think you may be hitting the label/mount point confusion here. 'Boot' is
not a mount point: it is the label of that partition. If I'm reading
this correctly, at this point in the process, you have nothing set to be
mounted at /boot. All you've done is say you'd like to format the
partition called Boot in your existing F18 install, but you haven't said
you'd actually like to use it in the new install in any way.

> -Click on plus button on new F18 installation.
> -Click on "ext4 500MB" partition.
> -Type in "/boot" into Mount Point.
> -Click "Apply Changes"
> 
> At this point a "Boot 500MB" partition is added, but the old "ext4 
> 500MB" partition line is still displayed.

Well yes, you didn't say that partition should be removed. Why would it
disappear?

> 1) The logic behind the steps required to entire custom partitioning is 
> wordy. It should be a simple step of asking the user "Do it for me!" or 
> "Let me do it!" and not a couple paragraphs of text no one will read.

So, wait, we have a couple of people in the thread suggesting that what
the installer needs is more explanatory text, and now you're suggesting
that explanatory text is wordy paragraphs no one will read? :)

> 2) The "Customize..." expander is frivolous. There is an extensive 
> amount of empty UI space. There is no need to have an expander for the 
> "Customize..." area. It should always be displayed as we are in Custom 
> Partitioning to begin with.

I've actually suggested that to dlehman myself, but apparently Mo wasn't
keen on it, but I haven't discussed it directly with her. A compromise I
suggested was to name the expander more clearly. 'Customize' gives you
no idea what's behind it.
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