F18 beta experience under VM

[Adam Williamson]

On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 11:55 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 12/03/2012 10:44 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > At no point in all that did you actually assign a mount point to it. I
> > think you may be hitting the label/mount point confusion here. 'Boot' is
> > not a mount point: it is the label of that partition. If I'm reading
> > this correctly, at this point in the process, you have nothing set to be
> > mounted at /boot. All you've done is say you'd like to format the
> > partition called Boot in your existing F18 install, but you haven't said
> > you'd actually like to use it in the new install in any way.
> 
> "Boot" is not a label on the file system, it is a label of the UI 
> widget. I do not use labels on my file systems and there is not one on 
> my existing F18 install.

Ah - I guess anaconda is extracting it from the fstab data, then. This
is clearly confusing people, though I don't off-hand see how to improve
it. This is anaconda identifying the existing partitions for you - it's
telling you 'this is the partition that is /boot on your existing
installation'.

> >> >At this point a "Boot 500MB" partition is added, but the old "ext4
> >> >500MB" partition line is still displayed.
> > Well yes, you didn't say that partition should be removed. Why would it
> > disappear?
> 
> Instead of adding an additional UI widget item for a partition, I expect 
> the existing partition UI widget to be updated. In fact, when you 
> navigate back to the old partition setup, and then back to the new 
> partition setup, the duplicate UI widget is gone.
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=883076
> 
> >
> >> >1) The logic behind the steps required to entire custom partitioning is
> >> >wordy. It should be a simple step of asking the user "Do it for me!" or
> >> >"Let me do it!" and not a couple paragraphs of text no one will read.
> > So, wait, we have a couple of people in the thread suggesting that what
> > the installer needs is more explanatory text, and now you're suggesting
> > that explanatory text is wordy paragraphs no one will read?:)
> 
> I deal with end users of all backgrounds every day. People don't read 
> *anything* you give them. People that say otherwise have been 
> programming in basements for too long.
> 
> > I've actually suggested that to dlehman myself, but apparently Mo wasn't
> > keen on it, but I haven't discussed it directly with her. A compromise I
> > suggested was to name the expander more clearly. 'Customize' gives you
> > no idea what's behind it.
> 
> That is unfortunate. What's the purpose of having 50% of the screen be 
> blank?

I don't want to put words in other people's mouths - especially not at
third hand (Mo to David to me) - so I'm not going to answer that. I'll
let the devs speak directly for themselves if they want to.
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