[Test-Announce] 2012-05-11 @ 17:00 UTC - F17 Final Blocker Bug Review #5
Tim Flink
tflink at redhat.com
Fri May 11 20:19:31 UTC 2012
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#fedora-bugzappers: f17-final-blocker-review-meeting-5
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We were able to get through all of the proposed blockers but didn't get
to the accepted blockers or proposed NTH.
I will be scheduling another review meeting for early next week (probably
Monday) to finish going over the remaining bugs.
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-05-11/f17-final-blocker-review-meeting-5.2012-05-11-17.04.html
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-05-11/f17-final-blocker-review-meeting-5.2012-05-11-17.04.txt
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-05-11/f17-final-blocker-review-meeting-5.2012-05-11-17.04.log.html
Meeting summary
---------------
* roll call (tflink, 17:04:49)
* Introduction (tflink, 17:15:59)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (tflink, 17:16:12)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(tflink, 17:16:32)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
(tflink, 17:16:32)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Final_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:16:34)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Beta_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:16:36)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:16:39)
* (821015) Software Update claims all packages are untrusted (tflink,
17:18:28)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821015 (tflink,
17:18:28)
* Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:18:28)
* AGREED: - 821015 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 alpha release
criterion "The installed system must be able to download and install
updates with yum and the default graphical package manager in all
release-blocking desktops" for systems where the user doesn't have
the root password (tflink, 17:26:38)
* (819113) abrt-ccpp service not enabled by default on F17 (tflink,
17:26:53)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=819113 (tflink,
17:26:53)
* Proposed Blocker, VERIFIED (tflink, 17:26:53)
* AGREED: - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - While this doesn't hit any
of the release criteria, losing crash reports is not something that
we want to be doing and would take a well tested fix (tflink,
17:30:48)
* according to the author, this fix has been in F16 stable for some
time now (tflink, 17:31:12)
* (813548) alsa bug makes kernel kill pulseaudio sometimes (tflink,
17:31:27)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813548 (tflink,
17:31:27)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:31:27)
* AGREED: 813548 - RejectedBlocker - While somewhat ugly, this bug
seems to be a corner case that only affects a few users and would be
fixable with an update for installed systems. (tflink, 17:37:00)
* (816742) Installer in EFI mode needs to use grub2 and allow /boot on
LVM (tflink, 17:37:12)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816742 (tflink,
17:37:15)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:37:17)
* AGREED: - 816742 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - This doesn't hit
any of the release criteria - it is well known that grub2-efi is not
ready for use. No NTH because it is too late to take grub changes
that aren't accepted as blockers (tflink, 17:42:08)
* (817037) Installer damage Disks (tflink, 17:42:20)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817037 (tflink,
17:42:21)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:42:21)
* AGREED: - 817037 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - There is no clear
reproducer and it is not clear that this isn't expected behavior
(autopart with 'use all space' is supposed to clear off all disks')
(tflink, 17:46:50)
* (820366) Cannot boot 17 Beta installer: /dev/root does not exist
(tflink, 17:47:04)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820366 (tflink,
17:47:08)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:47:10)
* AGREED: - 820366 - There is not enough information to decide on
whether or not this is actually a blocker - ask for more information
and more re-testing of PXE and ks delivery over nfs (tflink,
17:54:06)
* (813648) gnome-shell shows blank windows on hardware lacking NPOT
textures (tflink, 17:54:21)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813648 (tflink,
17:54:24)
* Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:54:26)
* AGREED: - 813648 - AcceptedNTH - This is a graphical issue that
would affect a minority of users - there is unclear cosensus on
whether or not this is enough to be a final blocker (can't fix
livecds with an update) but enough for NTH. (tflink, 18:21:39)
* (801650) Fedora PV guest 17 fails to boot under Xen (with SandyBridge
or newer hardware that do xsave) (tflink, 18:22:01)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801650 (tflink,
18:22:04)
* Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:22:08)
* AGREED: - 801650 - AcceptedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - Violates the F17
final release criterion "The release must boot successfully as Xen
DomU with releases providing a functional, supported Xen Dom0 and
widely used cloud providers utilizing Xen. This does not include any
issues limited to the release functioning as Xen Dom0" for some
newer platforms (tflink, 18:45:12)
* (819492) GVfs apps should convey when eject/unmount takes a long time
(tflink, 18:46:25)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=819492 (tflink,
18:46:28)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:46:31)
* AGREED: - 819492 - AcceptedNTH - This is a potentially nasty bug
that could lead to user data corruption/loss. Well tested fixes will
be considered past freeze but probably not at the last minute.
(tflink, 19:06:25)
* AGREED: - 819492 - AcceptedBlocker (conditional) - The situation as
is has been decided to be a blocker issue but we recognize that a
full, proper fix is not practical and would agree to remove blocker
status once some work was done to mitigate the poential for users to
lose data (tflink, 19:16:17)
* cmurf proposed raising this issue with fesco (tflink, 19:18:09)
* (811412) F17 Final TC3 has bogus OS X entries in grub2 when installed
from dd-written images (tflink, 19:21:02)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811412 (tflink,
19:21:04)
* Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:21:07)
* AGREED: - 811412 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - This doesn't hit
any of the release criteria and doesn't seem release critical but it
looks bad and could cause confusion. thus a well tested fix would be
accepted (tflink, 19:33:08)
* (820971) Help -> Content function is broken (tflink, 19:33:22)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820971 (tflink,
19:33:23)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:33:23)
* AGREED: - 820971 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 final release
criterion "All applications listed under the Applications menu or
category must withstand a basic functionality test and not crash
after a few minutes of normal use. They must also have working Help
and Help -> About menu items" (tflink, 19:35:25)
* (740280) /dev/live no longer exists (tflink, 19:36:14)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=740280 (tflink,
19:36:15)
* Proposed Blocker, VERIFIED (tflink, 19:36:15)
* AGREED: - 740280 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - None of the F17
release requirements mention persistance in live images and thus
this isn't a blocker. However, it is a significant feature that we
would like to see working before release and a tested fix would be
considered for accepting past freeze (tflink, 19:38:54)
* (820750) TC4 live install to HD fails on first try - Partition(s) 1
on /dev/sda have been written, but we have been unable to inform the
kernel of the change (tflink, 19:38:59)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820750 (tflink,
19:39:02)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:39:05)
* AGREED: - 820750 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 alpha release
criterion "The installer must be able to complete an installation
using any locally connected storage interface (e.g. PATA, SATA, SCSI
etc...) with the default file system " but it's unclear whether
spin-kickstarts is the right place to fix this (tflink, 19:46:59)
* (815413) Preupgrade from F16 to F17 Beta does not regenerate
pam.d/system-auth*, causing systemd-loginctl not to know about user
sessions, breaking PulseAudio (tflink, 19:47:35)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815413 (tflink,
19:47:37)
* Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:47:40)
* AGREED: - 815413 - RejectedBlocker - Given our current
understanding; this will affect few upgrades and if it does, the fix
is not difficult. The fix needs to be documented but this bug no
longer seems like a blocker (tflink, 19:52:58)
* the fix for this (re-running authconfig) needs to be documented
prior to release (tflink, 19:53:15)
* (820973) Help -> Content function is broken (tflink, 19:53:30)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820973 (tflink,
19:53:30)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:53:30)
* AGREED: - 820973 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 final release
criterion "All applications listed under the Applications menu or
category must withstand a basic functionality test and not crash
after a few minutes of normal use. They must also have working Help
and Help -> About menu items" (tflink, 19:54:53)
* (821077) Firstboot window does not fit the screen after install from
F17 TC4 Final KDE Live (tflink, 19:59:32)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821077 (tflink,
19:59:34)
* LINK: Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:59:37)
* AGREED: - 821077 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 alpha release
criterion "In most cases (see Blocker_Bug_FAQ), a system installed
according to any of the above criteria (or the appropriate Beta or
Final criteria, when applying this criterion to those releases) must
boot to the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after
installation, without unintended user intervention, unless the user
explicitly chooses to boot in non-graphical mode. This in (tflink,
20:02:01)
* Open Floor (tflink, 20:03:30)
Meeting ended at 20:16:15 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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