<br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;" class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Scott Robbins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scottro@nyc.rr.com">scottro@nyc.rr.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="Ih2E3d">On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 08:47:57AM +0100, Gianluca Sforna wrote:<br>
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Anne Wilson <<a href="mailto:cannewilson@googlemail.com">cannewilson@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > I get quite angry at the number of times I see replies like 'disable<br>
> > pulseaudio and you'll have no more problems' - but I have not counter-<br>
> > arguments.<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> I suggest you base at least some of the material on Lennart Poettering blog<br>
> <a href="http://0pointer.de/blog" target="_blank">http://0pointer.de/blog</a><br>
><br>
> and in particular the "PulseAudio FUD" post here:<br>
> <a href="http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/jeffrey-stedfast.html" target="_blank">http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/jeffrey-stedfast.html</a><br>
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</div>That's not a counter argument, it seems to agree. Its developer says<br>
that it's not ready for prime time, though he phrases it differently.<br>
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Interesting that he feels Fedora, where sound doesn't Just Work unless<br>
you use Gnome, did a good job of implementing it, whereas Ubuntu, where<br>
sound works without any effort in console, fluxbox, and the like, did a<br>
bad job.<br>
</blockquote></div><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">OK, I've read his FUD rebuttal, I can understand why sound doesn't<br>just work, but I've got one of those laptops where it doesn't work.<br>
Personally, I won't go near Gnome (it just doesn't work the way _I_<br>think, and neither of us is wrong).</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">I'd like to switch from F8 to F10, but there are a number of pretty<br>
simple items on my checklist, and one is sound:</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">a) The KDE launch and shutdown sounds should not stutter.</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> (I usually have them turned off anyway, but it is indicative of a 'problem')</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">b) I need 'audacity'</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">c) I'd like to have xine and mplayer (sometimes one doesn't like my DVDs</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> and the other does)<br>
d) playing MP3s (from conference proceedings) (I like xmms) Rarely do<br> I play albums, so all these players that focus on sucking music<br> across the net and showing album covers and building playlists<br> are lost on me; just play the file I've got is enough.<br>
e) the 'CD control' button on the front of my Dell Inspiron 6400<br> should work (at least as well as they did on F8, otherwise its a<br> regression).<br><br>So while testing Rawhide and now F10 release, step a) (still) doesn't work.<br>
So... If a) doesn't work, then I typically stop there and wait till it<br>does, even if some of the _other_ stuff might work.<br><br>Either a) I'm doing something wrong (because it doesn't work 'out of the box'<br>
on my machine or b) What do I file Bugzilla's against?<br><br>Thanks for listening,</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">Fulko</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
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