<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/3/20 Michał Piotrowski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mkkp4x4@gmail.com">mkkp4x4@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
W dniu 20 marca 2011 20:54 użytkownik cornel panceac<br>
<<a href="mailto:cpanceac@gmail.com">cpanceac@gmail.com</a>> napisał:<br>
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> 2011/3/20 Genes MailLists <<a href="mailto:lists@sapience.com">lists@sapience.com</a>><br>
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>> On 03/20/2011 03:43 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:<br>
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>> ><br>
>> > In a stable distribution such situation would not be possible because<br>
>> > of the whole testing procedures etc.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > But of course there should be a way to avoid such situation. I hope<br>
>> > that Lennart will find a good way to solve this problem soon.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
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>> Then make the variable timeout default to 30 secs - so worst case<br>
>> services get started and system runs ... individual services which<br>
>> actually require the pre-requisite - can change the timeout variable to<br>
>> demand pre-req is satisfied - of course even these will presumably fail<br>
>> (hopeflly gracefully).<br>
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>> So the answer seems to be implement a timeout for pre-requisites and<br>
>> default it to something sensible - ... fixup any upstart files as needed<br>
>> - since the systemd unit files are all new anyway - we should be fine<br>
>> with this.<br>
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> although i understand the general idea about systemd, i believe that in<br>
> fedora's case there has to be a plan which says who starts when, and what<br>
> requires what. then, if thngs don't go that well, as it happened with this<br>
> rsyslog update, the plan can be imporved.<br>
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</div>Unfortunately it is not so simple. For example we have a service<br>
After=syslog.target network.target<br>
and for some reason network configuration takes longer than 30 seconds<br>
so the service does not start when default timeout will be short and<br>
will cover all dependences.<br>
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<div>what happens if you replace After= with Wants= ?</div>