<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/30 Pasha R <span dir="ltr"><<a href="http://pashar.ml">pashar.ml</a>@<a href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Adam Williamson <<a href="mailto:awilliam@redhat.com">awilliam@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 22:09 +0300, Pasha R wrote:<br>
>> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Adam Williamson <<a href="mailto:awilliam@redhat.com">awilliam@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 09:47 +0600, Angel wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> If you click the network icon of the panel then Network Settings, that<br>
>> >> īs the different thing (dumbed down to absolute worthlessness).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > yeah - it's so worthless you can only connect to a typical wired or<br>
>> > wireless network configuration, y'know, like probably 80-90% of all<br>
>> > network connections ever. I do wish people would be less absurdly<br>
>> > extremist about everything. 'It doesn't yet cover my particular use<br>
>> > case' is not the same thing as 'worthless'.<br>
>><br>
>> Well, unfortunately, my internet provider (and all other internet<br>
>> providers in my country) require me to use PPPoE to connect to<br>
>> internet. And, for some unknown reason (probably something like "I<br>
>> don't need it, so no one else does, too" logic) current "network<br>
>> setting" application does not allow me to configure such connection.<br>
>> So, yes, I can't configure my internet connection with it, which<br>
>> means, it is worthless.<br>
><br>
> For your case, yes. 'Absolute worthlessness' implies it is of no use to<br>
> anyone, which is not the case.<br>
><br>
> The reason some functions are not yet implemented in the GNOME 3 NM<br>
> interface is simply that the developers did not have time to finish them<br>
> off yet. No conspiracy theory needed.<br>
<br>
</div>Yes, it is useless for anything beyond most basic configuration, which<br>
works without any configuration tools most of the time. And for some<br>
(many) users it is unable to setup internet connection at all. I don't<br>
remember posting any conspiracy theories here, but I don't understand<br>
why Fedora maintainers decide to replace functional software by<br>
software that lacks many essential features or even replace existing<br>
software by "yet to be written" (like gdmsetup, which remains to be<br>
written since F9). May be instead of rushing to release Gnome 3 before<br>
it can provide not only nice-looking, but also functional DE, they<br>
could stop, catch their breath and complete all these missing<br>
features.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">--<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>it's strange how, gnome 2 which was incomplete and buggy (we were unable to stop a copy operation in nautilus, remember? ), suddenly appears great, by comparison :)<br>