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On Mar 22, 2012 8:37 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson <<a href="mailto:johannbg@gmail.com">johannbg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On 03/22/2012 02:42 AM, Robyn Bergeron wrote:<br>
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>> There is detail going all the way back to June 2006 about Fedora Testing and Bugzappers and the formation of those groups as subprojects.<br>
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> I'm very well aware of that and you can find my opinion on that matter which is still unchanged after all those years.<br>
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> I still think this was unwise of the people involved at that time both the distinction from QA and the fact they though they where any different from reporters<br>
> ( you require exactly the same skill set ) but I listen and understood and still understand why they felt they needed to do so in the first place at that time.<br>
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>> We can either accept that The Right Thing Was Done or we can suspect that someone broke the rules and go hunting for a needle in a haystack for the nitty-gritty details. I, for one, would prefer to assume that the folks who were involved at that point in time, many of whom are still around in one capacity or another, did the right thing, or had the best of intentions. <br>
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> Nobody's questioning anyone's motive, the people involved felt they had no other choice at the time so they where kinda forced into becoming a "separated group" as you say.<br>
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> I would hope that me and James managed to eliminate the underlying cause which forced them to become a separated group/entity over the years and they could be folded back into QA and we can work towards making reporting and triaging part of the same process within the QA community.<br>
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> If we failed in that regard then the triagers should consider finish what was started all those years ago and apply for their own mailing list,trac instance etc. and finish that separation and finally become the "sub group" of the project that so many think they are.<br>
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<p>That sounds all very reasonable to me but ultimately that's got nothing to do what so ever to do with this issue or the board. It's up to the relevant projects, and even leaders within those projects, to reach out to each other and sort the differences and to make the merge happen if it makes sense.</p>
<p>Peter </p>