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On 04/15/2012 02:12 PM, stan wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:32:27 -0400
Jonathan Kamens <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jik@kamens.us"><jik@kamens.us></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">In particular, I would like to be able to control things at this
level:
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<pre wrap="">Except (a) the alsamixer curses interface is hardly one that's easy
for random users to find, and (b) even in alsamixer, I have to hit F6
and select my sound card before I see the level of granularity shown
above.
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<pre wrap="">Use alsamixer -c <card number here, start from 0>
You can find card numbers with
aplay -l
Once in alsamixer, F3 is playback, F4 is record, F5 is combined.
For really detailed settings, install alsa-utils and use amixer.</pre>
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I understand what you are saying, but you're missing the point. <i>It
should not be this hard</i> to access detailed sound settings. If
Fedora is going to use pulseaudio, then pulseaudio needs to provide
access to these settings.<br>
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These are not esoteric settings that only audiophiles use. I have to
tweak them<i> regularly</i> to get my speakers, headset, and
microphone to play nicely together, due to another bug, i.e., that
Fedora doesn't seem to <i>remember</i> my settings between logins /
reboots. But even if that bug weren't present and the settings were
remembered, I would still need to tweak them at least once to set
them properly the first time, and right now there's no way to do
that through a GUI, whereas there was before when gmixer was
supported. That's simply an unacceptable loss in basic
functionality, which has been totally lost for at least two major
releases now.<br>
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I love a lot of things about Fedora, but one of the things I
absolutely hate is its penchant for ripping out things that work and
replacing them with things that don't have nearly the same
functionality, perhaps with an amorphous functionality to restore
the missing functionality at some time in the indeterminate future.<br>
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jik<br>
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