<tt><font size=2>> > > From: Adam Williamson <awilliam@redhat.com>
<br>
> > <br>
> > > This is probably a terrible time to try preupgrade. It gets
no major<br>
> > > love until Beta, usually. If your goal is a working install
of F18,<br>
> > your<br>
> > > best option at present is a yum update from F17, following
the<br>
> > > directions at<br>
> > > </font></tt><a href=https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/><tt><font size=2>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> > > Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18 . <br>
> > <br>
> > Oh, well that would be easier for me since it stays more in my<br>
> > familiar realm. (Preupgrade looks neat, but my norm is
fresh installs<br>
> > + puppet.) Should this wisdom (both waiting until Beta
and that link)<br>
> > be incorporated into<br>
> > </font></tt><a href=https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/><tt><font size=2>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> Branched#Yum_update_from_previous_official_release? <br>
> <br>
> Probably not. Actually I should have written that a bit differently:<br>
> it's a *good* thing from a QA perspective that you're trying preupgrade<br>
> now and finding the bugs. We want them found early. It's only a bad<br>
> thing from the point of view that it has about 0% chance of succeeding.<br>
> =) Even if you get the preupgrade bit working, I believe newUI anaconda<br>
> does not actually implement upgrades yet, so there is no chance the<br>
> anaconda bit of the process will work.<br>
<br>
> Cool. Let us know if you find any QA process documentation missing
- I<br>
> think we cover it pretty well though :)</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>It is covered pretty well. For some reason though,
when I first sought out pages telling me how to get on rawhide (because
18 hadn't been branched just yet), I never stumbled onto the Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum
page. I mostly got a rawhide box based on intuition, but that page
clearly documents some things I hadn't thought about. My suggestion
for incorporating this link into the Releases/Branched page was primarily
based on the impression that the former covered that specific topic more
thoroughly. Thus I kind of envisioned something akin to:</font></tt>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">"""</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Yum update from previous official release</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">This method is available but generally
not recommended. Anaconda can make changes that are outside what the packaging
system can normally deal with. You may also run into dependency problems
which could take time to untangle. You may also need to upgrade from the
immediately previous release (e.g. install Fedora 12, then Fedora 14 Branched,
not jump directly from Fedora 12 to Fedora 14 Branched). Be prepared to
wipe your system and re-install from scratch if things do not go well.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">If you decide to go this route anyway,
please see </font><a href=http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum><font size=2 face="sans-serif">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum</font></a>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">"""</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Also, that paragraph is just plain confusing
(to me, at least). After trying to parse it for a while, I think
it's trying to say: You may *first* need to upgrade *to* the immediately
previous release (e.g. install/upgrade to Fedora *13*, then Fedora 14 Branched,
not jump directly from Fedora 12 to Fedora 14 Branched).</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
--<br>
John Florian<br>
Machine Data Collections Team</font>
<br>