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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/03/2013 08:05 AM, "Jóhann B.
Guðmundsson" wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:50E59E3F.9020702@gmail.com" type="cite">On
01/03/2013 02:09 PM, Josef Skladanka wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">I'm absolutely +1 with jeischmann and
jreznik on this matter.
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Keyboard layouts are broken almost every other (if not every
one) Fedora release. The same exact encrypt-prompt issue was (at
least) in F16, and we released it anyway.
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I'm not saying that we should just blindly say "it's late, let's
ship it", but quite a few of these bugs (which adamw mentioned)
IMHO are either present (not saying the exact ones, but the
'type' of the bugs) in Fedora for quite some time already, or
just are not clear show-stoppers.
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Which to me makes it more urgent to become a showstopper.
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Ignore that broken behavior and just releasing has not gotten
those thing properly fixed now has it...
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JBG
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I think the main thing here that adam was getting at is not the
"individual bugs that we keep saying we'll fix and have accepted at
release in the past" (but never seem to, as an aside point), but
more of the sum of all things combined. Yes, the release criteria
provides a bit of wiggle room here, but there is also guidance about
using judgement about things like # of users potentially affected,
the ease of fixing things for both knowledgable users and uninformed
users, etc.<br>
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My concern here is mostly that we all keep to be pointing to
workarounds but I question how many of these workarounds are going
to basically land someone on the doorstep of another
language-related bug. ie: "oh, you can work around the encryption
issue by doing X, except X doesn't work because your translation
isn't done," etc. And this is what adam more or less pointed out in
889562. <br>
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The fact that bengali is 33% done being translated does jump out at
me a bit, as does chinese defaulting to the US keyboard. These are
not insignificant populations.<br>
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Most of the indic languages defaulting to the guajarati keyboard is
something we might look at - I almost wonder if that is somehow
intentional, all of the languages that are affected seem to support
inscript. (It may be related to the
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feature, or not, but it might be worth asking the feature owner for
any useful insight he might have about keyboard usage.) But if it's
not intentional and it's screwing things up, well, that's a pretty
significantly large population as well.<br>
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-r<br>
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