<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:16 PM, poma <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pomidorabelisima@gmail.com" target="_blank">pomidorabelisima@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="">On 17.04.2014 23:54, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:<br>
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 23:13:52 +0200<br>
> poma <<a href="mailto:pomidorabelisima@gmail.com">pomidorabelisima@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> On 17.04.2014 22:16, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> ...<br>
>>> very obtuse. Please explain what they have to do with the problem.<br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>> Why do you use the Rawhide in the first place?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> poma<br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
> Testing. Makes the released product much better. Now, why does all of<br>
> your remove plymouth modules fix the problem?<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>What exactly do you test. How do you make the released product much better?<br>
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<br>I had tried my usual tricks:<br></div>1. boot with enforcing=0<br>
</div>2. switch to a VT, run "telinit 3" and then "telinit 5".<br><br></div>I
noticed that "ps" seemed to be reporting that all was well: all the
obvious processes were running, but I did notice more than the usual
number of pulseaudio processes.<br>
<br>I also noticed shutdown hanging on "saving sound state" (or some such).<br><br></div>I
tried again with the latest kernel (kernel-3.15.0-0.rc1.git4.1.fc21.x86_64), and when I reached the
"black screen" state, I switch to a VT, and as root killed all the
pulseaudio processes ('killall -9 pulseaudio'). Within about 5-10 seconds, I got the
gdm-greeter login screen. System hung (black screen) again after
entering password, so I switched to VT and again killed the pulseaudio
processes with 'killall -9 pulseaudio'. Apparently the "new ones" were spawned by login process.<br><br>Lo and behold, got
my gnome desktop (of course, no sound).<br>
<br></div>I have absolutely no idea what relationship pulsaudio/sound has to gdm/gnome/shutting down.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Anyone have any ideas/thoughs?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>tom<br>-- <br>
Tom London
</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:16 PM, poma <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pomidorabelisima@gmail.com" target="_blank">pomidorabelisima@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">On 17.04.2014 23:54, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:<br>
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 23:13:52 +0200<br>
> poma <<a href="mailto:pomidorabelisima@gmail.com">pomidorabelisima@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> On 17.04.2014 22:16, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> ...<br>
>>> very obtuse. Please explain what they have to do with the problem.<br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>> Why do you use the Rawhide in the first place?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> poma<br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
> Testing. Makes the released product much better. Now, why does all of<br>
> your remove plymouth modules fix the problem?<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>What exactly do you test. How do you make the released product much better?<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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poma<br>
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