Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail
mike at cchtml.com
Fri Sep 5 14:01:32 UTC 2008
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Subject: Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail
From: Chris Tyler <chris at tylers.info>
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.
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Date: 09/05/2008 08:04 AM
> On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 01:21 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> I've never heard "default" defined as desktop before. Why do you equate
> the two? (To me, the default is a solid base that needs a (small) bit of
> package selection to make an optimal server or desktop -- but I also
> think that the PC paradigm has us thinking too hard in terms of 'server'
> and 'client' and that there are lots of use cases that are
By default no servers are installed. Not apache, not named, not dhcpd,
not even an FTP server. Sendmail is the only "server-class" daemon that
is installed by default. I'm not asking for sendmail's removal from
installation but simply not enabling it at boot time.
> I like being able to assume basic outbound MTA functionality is present,
> so imho having sendmail there by default is a Good Thing. (But yeah, no
> one reads root's mail. Maybe firstboot should give the option -- enabled
> by default -- to redirect root's mail to the first user created (or
> another address of the user's choice) via /etc/aliases).
Outbound MTAs on a local user's system are essentially useless in
today's Internet. All major e-mail domains have spam filters
specifically blocking dynamic IPs and most Fedora users have dynamic IP
addresses, or in some non-US countries proxy IP addresses, even worse.
The solution would be to configure sendmail to relay through your ISPs
mail server, but who is going to do that. No one.
> I didn't realize we're not running a combined crond/atd until your
> message prompted me to check! I wonder why...
I'm walking my way up the food chain with this question, so maybe we'll
find an answer soon.
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