Robin.Laing at drdc-rddc.gc.ca
Wed Feb 3 21:14:29 UTC 2010
On 02/01/2010 04:08 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 09:55:32 +1100,
> Roger<arelem at bigpond.com> wrote:
>> Then maybe there should be a blacklist all 3d applications until you
>> install 3d.
>> Fedora is never going to get rid of the best Free as in Speech driver
>> available for that hardware.
>> Woh! The above comments puzzle me.
>> Please explain how Nouveau is the best. Read my comments below before responding!
> Because the only other free driver is nv. And the consensus (at least for
> Fedora) is that Nouveau has passed up nv and should be the default driver.
>> Please explain why Blender 2.49 or 2.5 should be black listed.
> Applications don't get blacklisted. In this context blacklisting referred
> to keeping the kernel from loading the Nouveau driver that uses kernel mode
> setting. Apparently if mode setting gets used it causes a problem with
> trying to load the proprietary nVidia drivers later since they don't work
> with kernel mode setting.
>> No! the reason I suggested as much is because Nouveau causes so much
>> unnecessary trouble for so many newcomers and converts to open source.
> For the near future these people should probably be using a different
> distribution. Though maybe smarter packaging by the rpm fusion people could
> make using the proprietary nVidia drivers more newbie friendly.
As I am the one who said to blacklist 3D apps, I will explain.
No 3D hardware support, your software won't work. It doesn't matter
what you do or how often you install the software or attempt to edit
config files, will it work. It requires 3D support. It should or could
be a requirement before YUM installs the application.
To save the confusion, if a user doesn't install 3D video drivers, they
shouldn't be allowed to install 3D applications. I have run into it
many times already.
I do agree with you about different distributions. I don't recommend
Fedora to anybody that doesn't have some experience with Linux.
I would really appreciate it if nVidia, ATI or Intel would create RPM's
for their own cards so we could deal with them directly. Of course if
you have a bug, then you have to remove the driver to get any support.
Of course if the problem is in an application that requires 3D you are
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