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[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 07:47 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
> On 07/18/2011 03:56 AM, J.Witvliet at mindef.nl wrote:
> 
> >> the OP is using evolution in KDE and it fails to access gnome-keyring.
> > 
> > I only ever use Evolution under KDE. It uses gnome-keyring just as it does under Gnome. The only difference is that Evo prompts you for the keyring password on starting up under a new session (just the first
> > time) as it doesn't get this info automatically from the login widget as it does under Gnome.
> > 
> > poc
> > 
> > --
> > Seen that behaviour.
> > 
> > Any chance of changing that? I mean, that gnome-keyring picking up the proper credentials?
> > 
> > hw
> 
> 
>   This is exactly why (half) solutions like this are really bad. A well
> designed service should be a back end that works everywhere  - and allow
> front ends to be built (or shared) for different DE's.
> 
>   In this regard, the wallet managers are a failure.
> 
>   Network manager does it right - a daemon back end and a set of GUI's
> to partner with it. A decent key manager would be similar. There'd be a
> single API that apps can use - and the GUI's for user use the same API
> to communicate with it.
> 
>   The idea of having a tool for a common task is a good one - the design
> implementation is flawed and suffers from NIH.
> 
>   My view of course :-)

And mine, as I've said a number of times over the years. Last time I did
so (can't find the reference, sorry) someone mentioned
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/secret-storage-spec.
However that doesn't seem to be getting much traffic and the last update
was 6 months ago. AFAIK no major distro is using this at the moment.

Complaints about keyring/wallet incompatibility crop up quite regularly
on various lists, not just here, but the situation seems to be like the
weather: everyone complains but nobody does anything about it.

poc