systemd discussion

[Petrus de Calguarium]

JB wrote:

> - going beyond system init replacement
> - not adhering to UNIX principles (modularity, etc)
> - interference with sysadmin duties/decisions to set up the system (e.g.
>   loading modules on its own and e.g. enabling sys capabilities and
>   protocols)

It would be nice if there were more integration with system-config-services 
or a better, more modern replacement.

I never needed all of those run levels, It was just confusing and useless 
complexity. And 2-3 of them were always unused anyway, so getting rid of them 
was sensible.

Why shouldn't it load modules on its own? If the system can take care of 
running itself, then all the less for me to worry about. I don't want to have 
to configure every little thing; I want the system to run itself. But, I do 
like to be able to configure those things that interest me. I think that 
Fedora 15, as it is now, allows me this.

> There are people on test and user lists who are afraid to even touch F15
> ... and the reasons are systemd, GNOME 3, etc. Things called "progress"

That's their problem. My computers are running as I want them to and I have 
no complaints. Love progress, even when it means I have to unlearn some old 
stuff and adapt to improvements.

If you don't like gnome 3 or kde 4, then there are lots of other window 
managers in the fedora repos, or you can go all cli by logging in to vt-2 to 
vt6.