Upgrading to F16 Beta

[JD]

On 10/07/2011 02:32 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:42 AM, JD<jd1008 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> On 10/07/2011 11:53 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
>>> On 10/7/2011 11:25 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>>>> On 10/07/2011 02:17 AM, JD wrote:
>>>>> Thanx.
>>>>> A good point.
>>>>> I wish the upgrade process would
>>>>> actually prompt the user for performing
>>>>> such steps.
>>>> Even better would be for the upgrade process to offer to do this for the
>>>> user so that people wouldn't have to worry about getting it right.
>>> Part of me is wary of trying to automate this process as I trust people
>>> to get it right more than a generic script(s). Maybe tools to do parts
>>> of the task that can be safely isolated, but not the whole shebang.
>>>
>>> Given this thread, I intend to manually do it on my F14 before going to
>>> F16 so I can make sure I have everything right before upgrading. A bit
>>> more work? Probably. But worth it in my opinion
>> The gist of all this is that non-techies and newbs
>> have no knowledge of such things and this makes
>> Fedora (and perhaps all distros) rather difficult to
>> upgrade. A script to perform the upgrade would
>> be a great help to automate the process.
>> The suggestion that the script would/might get it
>> wrong, while you would/might get it right, is a
>> a mater of personal preference.
>> I vote for an upgrade script for all the steps
>> suggested on
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum
> "Non-techies and newbs" really should be using preupgrade instead of
> trying to do a live upgrade.  It saves countless headaches.
>
> -T.C.
Pre-upgrade is not without it's own headaches.
Furthermore, it does not alleviate the manual steps
outlined in
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum
that non-techies and newbs will be required to undertake,
such as deleting the leaves (orphans), and running synch
... etc.