"wireless disabled in software"

Sun Sep 18 00:17:59 UTC 2011

Craig White wrote:

> right click on this [NM] icon to get a list of options.

I'm right clicking on the icon now.
It lists 3 items:
  Network Management Settings
  Panel Options
  Remove this Network Management

> One of them is likely
> to offer to scan for available wireless networks. It also might list
> available wireless networks and thus would allow you to choose to
> connect to an available wireless network that you hadn't previously
> indicated to connect to 'automatically'  This isn't rocket science and
> is similar to actions required to use wireless networking on a Macintosh
> or Windows system.

Sorry, nothing like that appears on my Fedora-15/KDE system.
If I click on Network Management Settings
I get a window entitled Network Connections
which gives information on my current connection.
If I highlight this connection I get the basic data, SSID, MTU, etc.
As far as I can see, the only options I have are to change these,
which I don't need or want to.

>> The only action I've found likely to work at this point is re-booting.
> ----
> I suspect that you resort to rebooting because you have never checked
> your options by right clicking the wireless icon in the system panel. If
> it works for you... great.

As I have explained, right-clicking does not have the effects you describe.
What you say should happen is exactly what I would like to happen.

> see my explanation above - the GUI way to run 'iwlist scan'

Unfortunately, the only way I have found to run "iwlist scan"
is "iwlist scan".

> On the fly wireless configuration is entirely dependent upon
> NetworkManager and the wireless 'widget' in the system tray should
> provide all of the functionality you need. I don't know why you haven't
> figured this out already

because it doesn't correspond to what I see on my laptop

> or even gotten that info from whoever you
> referred to as being knowledgeable but really... it's there, it works
> well and should do everything you need. If not, you should file a bug
> report.

The simplest explanation would seem to be that I am missing some package.
But I included all relevant groups when installing F-15.
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[tim at blanche ~]$ sudo grep -i net /var/log/yum.log 
May 26 14:00:13 Installed: netpbm-10.47.26-2.fc15.i686
May 26 14:00:16 Installed: netpbm-progs-10.47.26-2.fc15.i686
May 28 11:37:55 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-
glib-0.8.999-3.git20110526.fc15.i686
May 28 11:37:58 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.999-3.git20110526.fc15.i686
Jun 03 14:23:02 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-
glib-0.8.9997-1.git20110531.fc15.i686
Jun 03 14:24:27 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.9997-1.git20110531.fc15.i686
Jun 03 14:24:28 Updated: evolution-NetworkManager-3.0.2-1.fc15.i686
Jun 10 22:05:05 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-
glib-0.8.9997-2.git20110531.fc15.i686
Jun 10 22:05:07 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.9997-2.git20110531.fc15.i686
Jun 10 22:05:43 Updated: evolution-NetworkManager-3.0.2-2.fc15.i686
Jun 16 23:27:28 Updated: net-tools-1.60-117.fc15.i686
Jun 17 23:54:11 Installed: libnet-1.1.5-2.fc15.i686
Jun 22 21:59:52 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-
networkmanagement-0.9-0.47.20110323.fc15.1.i686
Jun 22 21:59:53 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement-
libs-0.9-0.47.20110323.fc15.1.i686
Jun 22 22:01:33 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement-
openvpn-0.9-0.47.20110323.fc15.1.i686
Jun 22 22:01:33 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement-
vpnc-0.9-0.47.20110323.fc15.1.i686
Jun 22 22:01:33 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement-
pptp-0.9-0.47.20110323.fc15.1.i686
Jun 26 01:30:25 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-
glib-0.8.9997-4.git20110620.fc15.i686
Jun 26 01:31:01 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.9997-4.git20110620.fc15.i686
Jul 01 12:20:32 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-
networkmanagement-0.9-0.53.20110616git.nm09.fc15.i686
Jul 01 12:20:34 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement-
libs-0.9-0.53.20110616git.nm09.fc15.i686
Jul 01 12:20:44 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement-
pptp-0.9-0.53.20110616git.nm09.fc15.i686
Jul 01 12:20:44 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement-
openvpn-0.9-0.53.20110616git.nm09.fc15.i686
Jul 01 12:20:45 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement-
vpnc-0.9-0.53.20110616git.nm09.fc15.i686
Jul 03 12:09:06 Updated: evolution-NetworkManager-3.0.2-3.fc15.i686
Jul 07 13:49:08 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-
glib-0.8.9997-5.git20110702.fc15.i686
Jul 07 13:49:10 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.9997-5.git20110702.fc15.i686
Jul 19 12:12:24 Updated: 7:kdenetwork-libs-4.6.5-1.fc15.i686
Jul 19 12:13:16 Updated: 7:kdenetwork-4.6.5-1.fc15.i686
Jul 22 22:40:45 Updated: perl-Net-DNS-SEC-0.16-6.fc15.noarch
Jul 25 11:57:27 Updated: 1:telnet-0.17-51.fc15.i686
Aug 03 13:09:51 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-
glib-0.8.9997-6.git20110721.fc15.i686
Aug 03 13:11:18 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.9997-6.git20110721.fc15.i686
Aug 03 13:11:41 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-
vpnc-0.8.999-3.git20110721.fc15.i686
Aug 03 13:11:59 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-
openvpn-0.8.9997-2.git20110721.fc15.i686
Aug 03 13:12:02 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-
pptp-0.8.999-2.git20110721.fc15.i686
Aug 10 01:45:29 Installed: perl-Net-FTP-AutoReconnect-0.3-3.fc15.noarch
Aug 10 01:45:30 Installed: perl-Net-FTP-RetrHandle-0.2-3.fc15.noarch
Aug 10 01:46:48 Updated: perl-NetPacket-1.2.0-1.fc15.noarch
Aug 10 09:59:08 Updated: perl-Net-SSLGlue-0.8-1.fc15.noarch
Aug 28 14:31:54 Updated: perl-Net-Amazon-0.60-1.fc15.noarch
Aug 28 14:32:23 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement-
libs-0.9-0.54.20110812git.nm09.fc15.i686
Aug 28 14:32:25 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-
networkmanagement-0.9-0.54.20110812git.nm09.fc15.i686
Aug 28 14:32:25 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement-
vpnc-0.9-0.54.20110812git.nm09.fc15.i686
Aug 28 14:32:26 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement-
pptp-0.9-0.54.20110812git.nm09.fc15.i686
Aug 28 14:32:26 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement-
openvpn-0.9-0.54.20110812git.nm09.fc15.i686
Sep 09 12:31:28 Updated: evolution-NetworkManager-3.0.3-1.fc15.i686
Sep 16 11:34:19 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-glib-0.9.0-1.fc15.i686
Sep 16 11:35:03 Updated: perl-Net-Telnet-Cisco-1.10-7.fc15.noarch
Sep 16 11:35:20 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-0.9.0-1.fc15.i686
Sep 16 11:36:07 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-vpnc-0.9.0-1.fc15.i686
Sep 16 11:36:10 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-openvpn-0.9.0-1.fc15.i686
Sep 16 11:36:13 Updated: NetworkManager-openconnect-0.9.0-1.fc15.i686
Sep 16 11:36:17 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-pptp-0.9.0-1.fc15.i686
Sep 16 11:36:26 Updated: netcf-libs-0.1.9-1.fc15.i686
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(I've deleted a large number of perl-Net-* packages,
as I assume these are not relevant.)

Is there something obvious I am missing?

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