Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

Roger arelem at bigpond.com
Wed Sep 28 07:44:30 UTC 2011


On 28/09/11 13:23, Phil Savoie wrote:
> On 09/27/2011 08:58 PM, Kernel Guardian wrote:
>> After nearly 25 years of life with Unices, almost 20 years with Linux,
>> nowadays I'm pretty confused about future of Linux.
>> Allow me to elaborate a bit.
>> I'm convinced that the Kernel will survive and be better in the long
>> term future. RedHat and IBM as biggest contributors within it and
>> Linus as maintainer (leader, mogul ... ) give me faith in the future
>> of Linux. GNU fits well on the top of kernel. That is a rock solid
>> base for every Linux distribution.
>> Last 7 years all of my desktops, laptops, servers are locked down on
>> RHEL and derivatives and Fedora. I saw many changes, bad and good
>> ones. But last one, with fairly unfinished, not even close to, so
>> called Beta release, Gnome 3 DE is the worst what is happened.
>> On the other hand, I like the new look, many promising features, ...etc.
>> So, what is bad?
>> The bad thing is attitude of Gnome (developers, promoters, project
>> leaders) toward end users. They decide to abandon Gnome 2 and put
>> distribution maintainers in awkward position. Maintainers must use
>> (buggy, unfinished, untested) Gnome 3 if they want to use Gnome DE in
>> their distribution. Breaking compatibility at API level with previous
>> version put application developers in unenviable position. This is
>> almost unacceptable! ( because of that I understand Ubuntu leaders )
>> > From that point of view I wonder on whose payroll are these gentlemen?
>> This is not good way to promote OpenSource way of life, I'm presume.
>> I will agree with opinions that DE need some changes, fresh ideas.
>> Frankly, I don't see anything new that does not exists in other OS/DE
>> combination. It is good to have DE for mobile devices, tablets ....
>> etc. But that could be a related project with main Gnome, isn't it? I
>> use laptop only when I'm out of office. Desktop with 2 monitors is my
>> main workplace. ( someone would say "he is old-fashioned guy" ). No
>> one can convince me that all Gnome developers use only laptops. I
>> would like to see their workplaces.
>> I was shocked when I read the response of one of the Gnome developers
>> in a discussion about maximise/minimise buttons. I paraphrase the
>> answer: "we where not able to model use cases for them, because each
>> user uses them in different ways" ????? (I'd rather not comment this)
>>
>> At the end, using of Free Software is liberty/freedom of choice. There
>> are many opportunities: KDE, XFCE, LXDE .... They have been created as
>> response from people who thought differently. This is a waste of
>> energy, time, resources, even money. As an old elephant, I could
>> recall the story about end of XFree86 project.
>>
>> This is not the way how we can attract more young people who will
>> use/make/change OpenSource software.
>> Regardless of all these current events about Gnome, I will continue to
>> teach my students about importance of OpenSource, FSF, and freedom of
>> choice.
>>
>> P.S. I like to excuse myself about my English in front of linguistic purists :)
> Very, very well said.  Kudos to you!!
>
> Phil
Well said, thank you
Roger


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