Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users
Mike Wohlgemuth
mjw at woogie.net
Wed Sep 28 13:02:30 UTC 2011
On 09/28/2011 08:32 AM, Wade Hampton wrote:
> Additional data points that might add to the flames:
>
> 1) I have a co-worker new to Linux. He tried F15 and hated it,
> then went back to F14. I believe WinXP/Vista/7 users
> trying Linux for the first time ARE confused by F15/Gnome3.
>
> 2) Other friends/co-workers have moved to Ubuntu for their
> desktop and only use RHEL/CentOS for servers (No Fedora).
>
> 3) It took me hours to get my F15 laptop sane including
> finding obscure settings to turn on the minimize in
> windows, and a working printer configuration application.
>
I have largely stayed out of these conversations, but I would just like
to interject that I have had exactly the opposite experience. I love
Gnome 3 and would be frustrated if I had to go back to anything like
Gnome 2 or any other environment I have used before. I will be the
first to admit that things are not complete yet, but I really feel that
people who are complaining about any sort of design issues are missing
the point. The basic user interactions baked into Gnome 3 tend to be
much easier for me and a lot of complaints I see come from users
actively fighting to use the interface in a way that it was not intended.
For instance, there really is no need to minimize a window with Gnome
3. I know it sounds condescending to say that, and you can feel free to
feel insulted by me, the Gnome devs and God herself if you want, but
once I got the hang of it, never having to manage minimized windows was
amazingly freeing. Likewise, you can turn on focus follows mouse, but
if you do you will likely become frustrated with the experience. I have
used focus follows mouse for over 20 years prior to Gnome 3, and it was
one of the thing that made using X based desktops a joy for me, but I've
been running for about 1 month with click to focus and I don't miss
focus follows mouse one bit.
Gnome 3 might really irritate you, or might be specifically bad for your
particular use cases, and I completely understand if you want to
continue with the desktop metaphors that have served you well in the
past, but that does not mean it will be a general failure. Sure, there
is a bit of a learning curve, and I installed it on my machines to get
the hang of it before putting it on anything that anyone else will use,
but it only takes about 15 minutes to run through the changes with
someone sitting in front of the computer for them to get the hang of it.
That being said, I share your pain on the printer setup, and I really
hope that gets easier.
Woogie
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