Desktop desires and questions

[Aaron Konstam]

On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 14:58 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: 
> On 02/18/2012 02:17 PM, les wrote:
> > HI, everyone, 
> > 	I know that this has been discussed before, and I will go back and read
> > more of that.  
> > 
> > 	I want more efficient use of my desktop.  Pretty is nice for most
> > people and of course design driven types, but I am a technophile, closer
> > to Sheldon (of big bang theory) than normal people.  I know that.
> > 
> > 	Here is what I find in using the desktop as it exists in F16:
> > 
> > The need to click to get to the computer is annoying at its very best
> > and a real vocabulary expander in normal use.  Every time I use one
> > application and I want to access another I have to click 
> > 	"activities"
> > 	my windows shrink....
> > 	and I have to move the mouse to
> > 	"applications"
> > 	click
> > 	I get the menubar I should have in the first place
> > 	of course its on the opposite side of the screen and I now have 
> > 	to mouse over there and click
> > 	"topic" (and the applications are somehow scattered by my view)
> > 	which should be a pullright to a menu
> > 	but which sprinkles applications all over the screen.
> > 	mouse to my application
> > 	click 
> > 	"my application"
> > 	And finally my application comes up.
> > 	Oh, yes, I do have a 23" monitor, so the route of crossing the desktop
> > will get worse when I upgrade or go to multiple monitors later this
> > year.
> > 
> > This is so ergonomically inefficient, so slowing that it adversely
> > impacts my progress.
> > 
> > Anyway, that is only the most irritating bit I have found so far, but it
> > is worse.  I don't see anyway to move the icons, change their sizes,
> > move them to various menus, expand the menus, or do anything at all to
> > change the current layout which is not at all conducive to my work.  I
> > put this off long enough to hope that these issues had been addressed,
> > but they are not.  
> > 
> > 	I don't want to start a flame war.  I don't want to start a debate
> > about desktop managers (I know there are many out there) Nor do I wish
> > to castigate anyone.  I want to just make the thing do what I want
> > without a whole lot of deep investigation into XML files.
> > 
> > 	I want to know where the documents and or utilities are that will let
> > me do something to improve my working environment and get back to
> > efficiency.  If you have useful information, please send it on.  I am
> > sure I am not the only one who wants this information, nor should it be
> > hand editing xml files, although if that is the only method, I will do
> > it until I get too frustrated with Fedora.  AT this point I will not
> > give the disks to a friend who wants to use Fedora, because he is sight
> > impaired and this desktop will not work.  That is a real affront to
> > disabled people and should spark some kind of action by everyone
> > involved.
> > 
> > Please keep it civil and provide solutions for this desktop, don't say
> > change desktops, don't start flaming, just help me and others get this
> > thing to do what we need.
> > 
> > With all that said, the basic needs as I see it are:
> > 	1. a way to get a list type menu instead of icons
> > 	2. a way to move the icons (if a list is not possible) or listing to
> > different top level applications menus.
> > 	3.  Get the applications menu on screen all the time as a pulldown.
> > 	4.  ability to change icons by right clicking on the current icon and
> > selecting a "change icon" menu which will open a file navigator.
> > 	5. remove the "activities" switch and put the windows and applications
> > buttons in its place with pull downs optional.
> > 	6. remove the "favorites" and just let us put the icons on the desktop
> > if we so desire.
> > 	7.  do whatever else can be done to allow font selection, including
> > fontsize as well as icon size for the desktop.  This is an HID
> > requirement anyway.
> > 	8. Stop the messing around with the open desktop in any way whatsoever.
> > It is distracting and interferes with efficiency.
> > 
> > 
> > Oh, and I did do some Google-ing, but got very little useful
> > information.  Since Fedora is the cutting edge, lets make it cut a good
> > swath. Thanks.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Les Howell
> > 
> 
> 
> I'm very happy with XFCE4 and avant-windows-navigator
> 
> -- 
> -- Steve

I agree with Steve hat  Gnome 3 is not fo you considering what you want
to do.
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