F17 takes so long to reboot/poweroff

[David]

On 7/28/2012 10:27 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
> 
> On 07/25/2012 12:10 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:35 AM, Reindl Harald
>> <h.reindl at thelounge.net <mailto:h.reindl at thelounge.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 24.07.2012 19 <tel:24.07.2012%2019>:39, schrieb Richard
>> Vickery:
>>> Why do you need to reboot? What are you doing at power-off that
>> you need to hang around and wait for it? If a
>>> portable computer, just close it, pack it away before the lights
>> go out, and walk away? and is a minute and 38
>>> seconds really SO important? If this minuscule amount time is so
>> important, you could retire and get more of your
>>> minute and a half.
>> 
>> strange argumentation
>> 
>> it does not matter WHY someone reboots a machine nor is not reboot
>> a solution for any problem
>> 
>> rebooting a remote-machine after updates which is not important
>> enough to set up remote KVM as example is not funny if you have to
>> wait a long time without feedback
>> 
>> 
>> My point here is taken out of out of its context: it was not
>> rebooting I was concerned about, but that the world is not going to
>> end in a minute and a half. Included in my concern were many
>> things: one was to get someone with more knowledge than I to help
>> this gentleman - I have stated before that I am a political
>> scientist, not a real one (sorry if I offend any other political
>> scientists here, that is not my purpose); another concern is that
>> when I used MS stuff, I was concerned and fearful about a longer
>> wait periods because of their crashing occurrences, and in Linux
>> waiting is no big deal because Linux does what it is supposed to do
>> versus MS Windows which teaches an individual to freak out when the
>> computer does something like that in question; another concern is
>> that I am, and cannot un-become over-night, nor would I want to, a
>> qigong master who doesn't worry about time - and this is why mine
>> is, as Harald says, a "strange argument"; everything the qigong
>> practitioner is, is strange to those who don't practice.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> 
> I too would be concerned with a long shut-down time.....only because,
> as stated before when using Windows the longer an application or
> computer takes to shut down could mean all KINDS of things are taking
> place that are unknown to the user. From viruses and trojan files
> being installed......to the hard drive being deleted a byte at a
> time. If there's one thing I've learned to do with Linux it's that
> every two weeks I run BleachBit and this seems to keep my system
> pretty fast. Shutdowns and startups are quick, and free of glitches.
> I'm running Fedora 16 on a 32 bit 3GM memory laptop and for what I
> need it to do....it's pretty fast. I'm in the process of upgrading my
> hardware to 64-bit, and I'm wondering just how much more of an
> increase in speed that will give my system, when I go to Fedora
> 17.....and this is in addition to making sure my Firewall is on and
> working!
> 
> 
> EGO II
> 
> 


"the longer an application or computer takes to shut down could mean all
KINDS of things are taking place..."?

Really? References? Documentation? Facts? Instead of 'What I think I
know' and can not prove.
-- 

  David