OT Web servers and ISP -and Rails

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 02/01/2013 08:08 PM, Craig White wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 14:19 +1100, Roger wrote:
>> Thanks Phil
>>>> I have run into a gotcha with the ISP which will not provide  Rails 3 on
>>>> a shared server.
>>>> Can someone please enlighten me as to why not. What are the problems?
>>>>
>>>> Apologies for OT but google so far doesn't help.
>>> I had a similar situation & I just started using vps instead.
>>>
>>> I think most ISPs are still using Rails 2 because they see no need to
>>> upgrade & are also wary of the swiftness of the Rails/Ruby releases.
>>> Plus there is no definitive Rails 3 per se to speak of.
>>>
>>> So, your only choice is to go with either a dedicated server, a
>>> vps/cloud solution or a specialist Rails outfit. VPS/cloud is by far the
>>> cheapest & most flexible IMO & works for me.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>     Phil...
>>>
>> I would tend to agree that there is no definitive rails 3. Each, even
>> minor change, virtually wrecks some part of previous coding and now they
>> recommend preparing for Rails 4 which will trash some Rails 3 coding.
>> Not happy Jan! Be great if the devs got something working and left it alone.
>> Is Rails 2 safe enough to rely on?
> ----
> Rails 2 is nearly EOL (and considerably less featured than Rails 3.
>
> Yes, Rails 3.1.x changed things on 3.0.x and now 3.2.x has a lot of new
> changes.
>
> Rails is a very fast moving target but has revolutionized how data
> driven web sites get done. Deal with it or use something else. At the
> point you get up to speed on Rails, the changes are less difficult to
> migrate than they first seem.
> ----
>> On the subject of Dedicated or VPS, I found Ventra-ip which provides
>> Rails on shared server and today is releasing pricing on Dedicated and
>> VPS. Prices are w-a-y below AussieHQ, Uber and others.
>> I've seen no reports of problems with them. Has anyone o list used Ventra?
>>
>> <rant>
>> Strange thing with Fedora 18.
>> Apache  or rather localhost:3000 works a treat with Rails but Drupal 7
>> on localhost/devsystem collapses when trying to install a live site
>> copy. Mysql in Fedora 18 shuts down while building the database from an
>> .sql file.  Pig of a thing.
>>
>> <end rant>
> ----
> rant doesn't make sense. MySQL is MySQL and a valid file should be able
> to import cleanly so it's probably got some issues. Sounds like someone
> is a little weak on MySQL and counts on it it to be easy.

There was talk on the Fedora-test and -devel list on migrating to 
MariaDB for F19...