<B><I>Phil Meyer <pmeyer@themeyerfarm.com></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <div>Paul Shaffer wrote:<BR>> My aren't you clever! Maybe if Fedora didn't routinely fail to <BR>> perform as expected, this whole topic would be moot.<BR>> <BR>> But then those of you very clever Fedora faithful would be wont for <BR>> fodder to express your boundless wit. How special!<BR><BR>I guess that expectations are the whole thing.<BR><BR>Fedora is bleeding edge, first to ship, with the newest and latest <BR>'experimental' applications and services.<BR><BR>F7 is specifically made for those who wish to try pungi, livecd-creator, <BR>revisor, new selinux admin tools, virtual host manager, and several <BR>other hot technologies and advancements.<BR><BR>If none of those interest you, then you may be in the wrong distro.<BR><BR>Fedora does try to maintain the newest and latest desktop stuff
as well, <BR>but as an aside. Firefox 2, was NOT back ported to FC6, for example.<BR><BR>The Ubuntu releases coincide with Gnome releases. The main focus of <BR>Ubuntu is the Gnome desktop, and user experience quality.<BR><BR>As a result, Ubuntu generally features an 'easier' user experience. <BR>However, underneath that slick installer is a rigid framework that is <BR>totally unsuitable for automated roll outs and customizations. Building <BR>a server class system from the Ubuntu CD is ... improbable.<BR><BR>Fedora is a more technical Linux release than 'all' others, with an <BR>added motivation of being a test bed for future RHE (think data center) <BR>releases. <BR><BR>Understood properly, with correct expectations, Fedora continues to <BR>release technically superior platforms. The downside is that the new <BR>user experience may not be as 'easy' as a distro like Ubuntu.<BR><BR>As the Linux community as a whole continues to grow, technologies will <BR>evolve and merge
from all the best sources. That is the nature of <BR>freedom in software.<BR><BR>It is unwise of us to expect Fedora to be the easiest. It may get <BR>there, but we don't expect it.<BR><BR>Good Luck!<BR><BR>-- <BR>fedora-list mailing list<BR>fedora-list@redhat.com<BR>To unsubscribe: <A href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list</A></div> <div> </div> <div>FYI, I was using Redhat Linux since V3 as I recall, maybe while you were still wet behind the ears? I is/was (expired) RHCT, V8, so don't take kindly being preached to about what you think Fedora is or is supposed to be, or what any user's expectations are supposed to be.</div> <div> </div> <div>OBTW, who did the Fedora project appoint to define what Fedora's user expectations are? Did I miss that somewhere? No, I think you are one of the aforementioned "Fedora faithful," who wished to somehow
characterize recent egregious failures of basic functionality in a more favorable light.</div> <div> </div> <div>I've successfully installed, used and been quite happy with every Redhat offering since long before they went public, up to and with the exception of FC7. And I draw the line where I see self-righeous nerds making this type of banter on what is supposed to be a user-support list.</div> <div> </div> <div>OBTW, I'm not going away and invite all comers to freely hijack this thread at will. It needs it.<BR></div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p> 
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