<HTML>
No probs - is it Ok for me to use your email account and this pasword for the A/V s/ware on the LYWA notebook?<BR>
or do you want me to change the password to something else?<BR>
<BR>
Pa<BR>
<BR>
 <BR>
<BR>
<span style="font-weight: bold;">On Wed Sep  3 13:48 , fedora-list-request@redhat.com sent:<BR>
<BR>
</span><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(245, 245, 245); margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px;">Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to<BR>

        <a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a><BR>

<BR>

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR>

        <a href="parse.pl?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redhat.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffedora-list" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list</span></a><BR>

or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR>

        <a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list-request@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list-request@redhat.com</a><BR>

<BR>

You can reach the person managing the list at<BR>

        <a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list-owner@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list-owner@redhat.com</a><BR>

<BR>

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>

than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..."<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

Today's Topics:<BR>

<BR>

   1. upgrade to fc9 and lost mouse pad enter (Jim Duda)<BR>

   2. Re: [F8 x86_64] Pulseaudio w/USB Audio Device (Chris Tyler)<BR>

   3. Re: cryptsetup luksOpen reporting "Command failed: Invalid<BR>

      offset" (Philippe A.)<BR>

   4. Re: tcsh and fedora 9 (Paul Newell)<BR>

   5. Re: HowTo Change the Login Window? (Kam Leo)<BR>

   6. Keeping Firefox+Flash from eating your CPU (Jonathan Ryshpan)<BR>

   7. Re: Keeping Firefox+Flash from eating your CPU (Craig White)<BR>

   8. Re: Keeping Firefox+Flash from eating your CPU (Todd Zullinger)<BR>

   9. Re: upgrade to fc9 and lost mouse pad enter (g)<BR>

  10. Re: Bootable FC9 Disk Copy: Solved (Nickolas Gray)<BR>

  11. Re: error messages during ctorrent download (g)<BR>

  12. RE: Keeping Firefox+Flash from eating your CPU (landon kelsey)<BR>

  13. why does hotmail clump my spaced sentences on reply? sorry<BR>

      repeat (landon kelsey)<BR>

  14. Re: [F8 x86_64] Pulseaudio w/USB Audio Device (Sean Bruno)<BR>

  15. Re: Keeping Firefox+Flash from eating your CPU (Cameron Simpson)<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>

<BR>

Message: 1<BR>

Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:03:43 -0400<BR>

From: Jim Duda &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('jim@duda.tzo.com','','','')">jim@duda.tzo.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Subject: upgrade to fc9 and lost mouse pad enter<BR>

To: <a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a><BR>

Message-ID: <g9kuqg$452$><a href="javascript:top.opencompose('1@ger.gmane.org','','','')">1@ger.gmane.org</a>&gt;<BR>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR>

<BR>

I updated my laptop from fc8 to fc9.  Due to dependencies, I had to<BR>

remove gnome-panel.  I reinstalled gnome-panel and all the other stuff<BR>

that was removed, but apparently, I missed something.<BR>

<BR>

My touch pad continues to work as a mouse, however, I cannot use the<BR>

mouse pad as an enter key.  I cannot double-click on the mouse pad as a<BR>

select tool.<BR>

<BR>

Can anyone tell me where/how this is controlled in gnome?  Is there some<BR>

"manager" I need installed which might have been inadvertantly deleted?<BR>

<BR>

Thanks,<BR>

<BR>

Jim<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

------------------------------<BR>

<BR>

Message: 2<BR>

Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:06:04 -0400<BR>

From: Chris Tyler &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('chris@tylers.info','','','')">chris@tylers.info</a>&gt;<BR>

Subject: Re: [F8 x86_64] Pulseaudio w/USB Audio Device<BR>

To: "Community assistance, encouragement,        and advice for using<BR>

        Fedora." &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Message-ID: &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('1220411164.8990.106.camel@localhost6.localdomain','','','')">1220411164.8990.106.camel@localhost6.localdomain</a>6&gt;<BR>

Content-Type: text/plain<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 19:50 -0700, Sean Bruno wrote:<BR>

&gt; With my USB Turntable connected when I login to my desktop, pulseaudio<BR>

&gt; sets it's default "sink" to the USB Audio subsystem instead of my<BR>

&gt; onboard audio card.<BR>

&gt; <BR>

&gt; I had the same issue with alsa many moons ago, and was able to work<BR>

&gt; around that with some modprobe.conf foo.  Now, my configuration hacks<BR>

&gt; don't seem to be able to tame the pulseaudio demon and I am at a loss.<BR>

&gt; <BR>

&gt; Any guidance on how to get pulseaudio to use the sound device I choose<BR>

&gt; as the default sink?<BR>

&gt; <BR>

&gt; Sean<BR>

<BR>

Try this: Start [Applications&gt;Sound &amp; Video&gt;PulseAudio Volume Control],<BR>

right-click on your favorite sink, select "Default".<BR>

<BR>

-Chris<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

------------------------------<BR>

<BR>

Message: 3<BR>

Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 23:41:51 -0400<BR>

From: "Philippe A." &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('futhark77@gmail.com','','','')">futhark77@gmail.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Subject: Re: cryptsetup luksOpen reporting "Command failed: Invalid<BR>

        offset"<BR>

To: "For users of Fedora" &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Message-ID:<BR>

        &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('a7f866480809022041j198efea5u7a798390dda297e2@mail.gmail.com','','','')">a7f866480809022041j198efea5u7a798390dda297e2@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR>

<BR>

After rebooting I succeeded to created a luks usb drive as well as a luks<BR>

container. Case closed!<BR>

<BR>

2008/9/2 Philippe A. &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('futhark77@gmail.com','','','')">futhark77@gmail.com</a>&gt;<BR>

<BR>

&gt; My attempts to open a luks container fail with the following messages:<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/loop2 test.crypted<BR>

&gt; Enter LUKS passphrase for /dev/loop2:<BR>

&gt; key slot 0 unlocked.<BR>

&gt; Command failed: Invalid offset<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; As a result, the mapper never gets created in /dev/mapper.<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; The commands I am using to create my container are the following:<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; dd if=/dev/urandom of=test.crypted bs=1M count=256<BR>

&gt; sudo losetup -d /dev/loop2<BR>

&gt; sudo losetup /dev/loop2 /phil/test.crypted<BR>

&gt; sudo cryptsetup -c twofish -s 256 luksFormat /dev/loop2<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; The resulting container appears to be valid as shown by cryptsetup<BR>

&gt; luksDump:<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; LUKS header information for /dev/loop2<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; Version: 1<BR>

&gt; Cipher name: twofish<BR>

&gt; Cipher mode: cbc-plain<BR>

&gt; Hash spec: sha1<BR>

&gt; [snip]<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; However, no mapper after the luksOpen.<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; I have a non-luks 'vanilla' container that works. Can anyone help me figure<BR>

&gt; what I'm missing?<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; Thanks!<BR>

&gt;<BR>

-------------- next part --------------<BR>

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>

URL: <a href="parse.pl?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redhat.com%2Farchives%2Ffedora-list%2Fattachments%2F20080902%2F0c88f332%2Fattachment.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20080902/0c88f332/attachment.html</span></a><BR>

<BR>

------------------------------<BR>

<BR>

Message: 4<BR>

Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:05:07 -0700<BR>

From: Paul Newell &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('pnewell@cs.cmu.edu','','','')">pnewell@cs.cmu.edu</a>&gt;<BR>

Subject: Re: tcsh and fedora 9<BR>

To: "Community assistance, encouragement,        and advice for using<BR>

        Fedora." &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Message-ID: &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('48BE0CF3.5030005@cs.cmu.edu','','','')">48BE0CF3.5030005@cs.cmu.edu</a>&gt;<BR>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<BR>

<BR>

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:<BR>

&gt; On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 22:14 -0700, Paul Newell wrote:<BR>

&gt;   <BR>

&gt;&gt; Ed Greshko wrote:<BR>

&gt;&gt;     <BR>

&gt;&gt;&gt; Paul Newell wrote:<BR>

&gt;&gt;&gt;   <BR>

&gt;&gt;&gt;       <BR>

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; [babble removed by myself as this is the key line]<BR>

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; My question is "I want tcsh as part of my F9 os ... how do I get it<BR>

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; within the proper Fedora channels?"<BR>

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; As always, any suggestions appreciated.<BR>

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thank,<BR>

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Paul<BR>

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     <BR>

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;         <BR>

&gt;&gt;&gt; yum install tcsh<BR>

&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt;&gt;       <BR>

&gt;&gt; (with an embarrassed flush on my face) ... it's that easy? Why didn't I <BR>

&gt;&gt; find such when I scoured through what was available online at Fedora and <BR>

&gt;&gt; is there any reason that it isn't standard?<BR>

&gt;&gt;     <BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; The easy way to find out if 'foo' is in the repos is to type 'yum info<BR>

&gt; foo'. You can also use the repoquery command from the yum-utils package<BR>

&gt; ('yum install yum-utils').<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; poc<BR>

&gt;   <BR>

Thanks for the additional advice. Know nothing about "yum-utils" and <BR>

will look into after trying the "yum install tcsh".<BR>

<BR>

Paul<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

------------------------------<BR>

<BR>

Message: 5<BR>

Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:15:36 -0800<BR>

From: "Kam Leo" &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('kam.leo@gmail.com','','','')">kam.leo@gmail.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Subject: Re: HowTo Change the Login Window?<BR>

To: "Community assistance, encouragement,        and advice for using<BR>

        Fedora." &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Message-ID:<BR>

        &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('f84880b00809022115x28bd7d8h9986f06e18593268@mail.gmail.com','','','')">f84880b00809022115x28bd7d8h9986f06e18593268@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR>

<BR>

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Marc Ferguson &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('marcferguson@gmail.com','','','')">marcferguson@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<BR>

&gt; Hi All,<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; I would like to know how to access and/or change the "login window" for<BR>

&gt; Fedora 9.  I was told it's changed dramatically; we're not using GDM or it's<BR>

&gt; been split, blah blah blah.  I don't know what any of that means, I'm a<BR>

&gt; newb.  I'd like to install a theme I found on Gnome-Look.org, but so far all<BR>

&gt; the sites the folks in the chat room showed me didn't really say how to make<BR>

&gt; the changes, or I'm just now reading it right:<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Flive.gnome.org%2FGDM%2F2.22%2FConfiguration" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://live.gnome.org/GDM/2.22/Configuration</span></a><BR>

&gt; <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.fedoraproject.org%2Frelease-notes%2Ff9%2Fen_US%2Fsn-Desktop.html%23sn-GNOMEDisplayManager" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-Desktop.html#sn-GNOMEDisplayManager</span></a><BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; Thanks for any clarrification.<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; ---<BR>

&gt; Marc F.<BR>

<BR>

"F9 Login theme" was discussed in May. You can read it at<BR>

<a href="parse.pl?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redhat.com%2Farchives%2Ffedora-list%2F2008-May%2Fmsg02707.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-May/msg02707.html</span></a> to<BR>

see if it addresses your situation. If not, get back to us.<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

------------------------------<BR>

<BR>

Message: 6<BR>

Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:42:39 -0700<BR>

From: Jonathan Ryshpan &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('jonrysh@pacbell.net','','','')">jonrysh@pacbell.net</a>&gt;<BR>

Subject: Keeping Firefox+Flash from eating your CPU<BR>

To: Fedora List &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Message-ID: &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('1220416959.9745.3.camel@localhost.localdomain','','','')">1220416959.9745.3.camel@localhost.localdomain</a>&gt;<BR>

Content-Type: text/plain<BR>

<BR>

In a recent issue of Salon, I read:<BR>

        Luckily, there's a small add-on program for Firefox that lets<BR>

        the user prevent Flash files from running automatically when a<BR>

        page loads, and it turns Firefox into a stable, efficient<BR>

        browser.<BR>

This appeared in:<BR>

        <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.salon.com%2Fwires%2Fap%2Fscitech%2F2008%2F09%2F02%2FD92V0RV01_tec_tech_test_google_chrome%2Findex.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://www.salon.com/wires/ap/scitech/2008/09/02/D92V0RV01_tec_tech_test_google_chrome/index.html</span></a><BR>

<BR>

Does anyone know what this application/applet/plugin is?  Is it<BR>

available for Linux?<BR>

<BR>

Thanks - jon<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

------------------------------<BR>

<BR>

Message: 7<BR>

Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:48:12 -0700<BR>

From: Craig White &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('craigwhite@azapple.com','','','')">craigwhite@azapple.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Subject: Re: Keeping Firefox+Flash from eating your CPU<BR>

To: "Community assistance, encouragement,        and advice for using<BR>

        Fedora." &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Message-ID: &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('1220417292.16070.57.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com','','','')">1220417292.16070.57.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Content-Type: text/plain<BR>

<BR>

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 21:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:<BR>

&gt; In a recent issue of Salon, I read:<BR>

&gt;         Luckily, there's a small add-on program for Firefox that lets<BR>

&gt;         the user prevent Flash files from running automatically when a<BR>

&gt;         page loads, and it turns Firefox into a stable, efficient<BR>

&gt;         browser.<BR>

&gt; This appeared in:<BR>

&gt;         <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.salon.com%2Fwires%2Fap%2Fscitech%2F2008%2F09%2F02%2FD92V0RV01_tec_tech_test_google_chrome%2Findex.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://www.salon.com/wires/ap/scitech/2008/09/02/D92V0RV01_tec_tech_test_google_chrome/index.html</span></a><BR>

&gt; <BR>

&gt; Does anyone know what this application/applet/plugin is?  Is it<BR>

&gt; available for Linux?<BR>

----<BR>

flashblock is what I use<BR>

<BR>

Craig<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

------------------------------<BR>

<BR>

Message: 8<BR>

Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 00:56:29 -0400<BR>

From: Todd Zullinger &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('tmz@pobox.com','','','')">tmz@pobox.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Subject: Re: Keeping Firefox+Flash from eating your CPU<BR>

To: <a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a><BR>

Message-ID: &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('20080903045629.GF25264@inocybe.teonanacatl.org','','','')">20080903045629.GF25264@inocybe.teonanacatl.org</a>&gt;<BR>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR>

<BR>

Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:<BR>

&gt; In a recent issue of Salon, I read:<BR>

&gt;        Luckily, there's a small add-on program for Firefox that lets<BR>

&gt;        the user prevent Flash files from running automatically when a<BR>

&gt;        page loads, and it turns Firefox into a stable, efficient<BR>

&gt;        browser.<BR>

&gt; This appeared in:<BR>

&gt;        <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.salon.com%2Fwires%2Fap%2Fscitech%2F2008%2F09%2F02%2FD92V0RV01_tec_tech_test_google_chrome%2Findex.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://www.salon.com/wires/ap/scitech/2008/09/02/D92V0RV01_tec_tech_test_google_chrome/index.html</span></a><BR>

&gt; <BR>

&gt; Does anyone know what this application/applet/plugin is?  Is it<BR>

&gt; available for Linux?<BR>

<BR>

They're talking about Flashblock I believe (the article even mentions<BR>

the name near the end):<BR>

<BR>

<a href="parse.pl?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Faddons.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2Ffirefox%2Faddon%2F433" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433</span></a><BR>

<BR>

-- <BR>

Todd        OpenPGP -&gt; KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http://www.pobox.com%2F" target="_blank">www.pobox.com/</a>~tmz/pgp<BR>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>

Never do today that which will become someone else's responsibility<BR>

tomorrow.<BR>

<BR>

-------------- next part --------------<BR>

A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<BR>

Name: not available<BR>

Type: application/pgp-signature<BR>

Size: 542 bytes<BR>

Desc: not available<BR>

Url : <a href="parse.pl?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redhat.com%2Farchives%2Ffedora-list%2Fattachments%2F20080903%2Fe25c7494%2Fattachment.bin" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20080903/e25c7494/attachment.bin</span></a><BR>

<BR>

------------------------------<BR>

<BR>

Message: 9<BR>

Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:57:11 +0000<BR>

From: g &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('geleem@bellsouth.net','','','')">geleem@bellsouth.net</a>&gt;<BR>

Subject: Re: upgrade to fc9 and lost mouse pad enter<BR>

To: fedora list &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Message-ID: &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('48BE1927.90806@bellsouth.net','','','')">48BE1927.90806@bellsouth.net</a>&gt;<BR>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<BR>

<BR>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<BR>

Hash: SHA1<BR>

<BR>

08/16/2008 10:00 PMJim Duda wrote:<BR>

<snip><BR>

&gt; My touch pad continues to work as a mouse, however, I cannot use the<BR>

&gt; mouse pad as an enter key.  I cannot double-click on the mouse pad as a<BR>

&gt; select tool.<BR>

<BR>

not directly, but there has been a previous post of;<BR>

<BR>

++++<BR>

subject: touchpad (Asus F3Sr) on Fedora 9<BR>

from: david hlacik<BR>

date: 08/16/2008 02:50 PM<BR>

<BR>

Hello guys,i have problem with my touchpad (Asus notebook F3Series) on Fedora 9<BR>

<BR>

from: mike cloaked<BR>

date: 08/16/2008 02:56 PM<BR>

<BR>

Known problem with touchpads in F9 -<BR>

<BR>

from: matthew saltzman<BR>

date: 08/16/2008 10:00 PM<BR>

<BR>

gsynaptic for GNOME.  I'd guess ksynaptic for KDE.<BR>

<BR>

synclient is a command-line one.<BR>

<BR>

To use any of these, you need to preconfigure xorg.conf with the<BR>

SHMConfig line in the InputDevice section.<BR>

<BR>

from: matthew saltzman<BR>

date: 08/17/2008 12:48 AM<BR>

<BR>

Sorry, that's gsynaptics and ksynaptics (ending in 's').<BR>

++++<BR>

<BR>

there is no post that problem was cured, but entire thread does give<BR>

info to check your xorg.conf and sample configs.<BR>

<BR>

so, i would say check fedora site for bug and have a look at entire<BR>

thread. or sit and wait to see if any of previous poster note your<BR>

post and reply.<BR>

<BR>

also, i you like, i can send you entire of thread that i have.<BR>

<BR>

- --<BR>

tc,hago.<BR>

<BR>

g<BR>

.<BR>

<BR>

in a free world without fences, who needs gates.<BR>

<BR>

learn linux:<BR>

'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition'   <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Frute.2038bug.com%2Findex.html.gz" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz</span></a><BR>

'The Linux Documentation Project'   <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tldp.org%2F" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://www.tldp.org/</span></a><BR>

'HowtoForge'   <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fhowtoforge.com%2F" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://howtoforge.com/</span></a><BR>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<BR>

Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux)<BR>

Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fenigmail.mozdev.org" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://enigmail.mozdev.org</span></a><BR>

<BR>

iD8DBQFIvhkm+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAqdQAJwMo/ToPH1+YCzwNGCPoNblWD78jACg1z/y<BR>

sVoTE8+o5dpTjZl290oyJYw=<BR>

=9p6i<BR>

-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

------------------------------<BR>

<BR>

Message: 10<BR>

Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 00:05:29 -0500<BR>

From: Nickolas Gray &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('nick@austin.rr.com','','','')">nick@austin.rr.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Subject: Re: Bootable FC9 Disk Copy: Solved<BR>

To: "Community assistance, encouragement,        and advice for using<BR>

        Fedora." &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Message-ID: &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('75B2DE95-7F95-427B-8A8A-E03A1DF7802F@austin.rr.com','','','')">75B2DE95-7F95-427B-8A8A-E03A1DF7802F@austin.rr.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed;<BR>

        delsp=yes<BR>

<BR>

Ken,<BR>

<BR>

Thanks for your input. It helped me solve the problem. It turned out  <BR>

to be with the rsync not copying all the files over. I should have  <BR>

used "rsync -axXv"<BR>

<BR>

You would think there would be more interest in this, but go figure.<BR>

<BR>

On Sep 1, 2008, at 5:06 PM, Ken Smith wrote:<BR>

<BR>

&gt; Nickolas Gray wrote:<BR>

&gt;&gt; I am attempting to create a bootable copy of a running SELinux box  <BR>

&gt;&gt; on FC9. I think I am close but I am coming up with a kernel panic  <BR>

&gt;&gt; (text at end) Here are the steps and a brief reason. If anyone has  <BR>

&gt;&gt; any suggestions where I might have made a mistake or left something  <BR>

&gt;&gt; out a comment would be appreciated. The only requirements so far is  <BR>

&gt;&gt; that it has to be a disk to disk copy with no CD/DVD rescue  <BR>

&gt;&gt; involved and it has to use LVM Snapshot.<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; The original looks like<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; mbr on boot sector<BR>

&gt;&gt; /dev/sda1  ext3 /boot<BR>

&gt;&gt; /dev/sda2  LVM<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; VolGroup00/LogVol00 is root<BR>

&gt;&gt; VolGroup00/LogVol01 is swap<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; This is what I am doing.<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; source to the target.<BR>

&gt;&gt; sfdisk -d /dev/sda | sfdisk /dev/sdb<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1 bs=512k<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=664 count=1<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; pvcreate /dev/sdb2<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; create the VolGroup for /<BR>

&gt;&gt; vgcreate -s 32m VolGroup01 /dev/sdb2<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; Create the logical volume for / and swap<BR>

&gt;&gt; lvcreate -l 1562 -n LogVol00 VolGroup01<BR>

&gt;&gt; lvcreate -l 62 -n LogVol01 VolGroup01<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; Create the swap area<BR>

&gt;&gt; mkswap /dev/VolGroup01/LogVol01<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; Format the / filesystem<BR>

&gt;&gt; mkfs -t ext3 /dev/VolGroup01/LogVol00<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; Create the snapshot<BR>

&gt;&gt; lvcreate -L 20g -s -n snap /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; Mount the snapshot<BR>

&gt;&gt; mount /dev/VolGroup00/snap /snapshot<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; Mount the target<BR>

&gt;&gt; mount /dev/VolGroup01/LogVol00 /target<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; Rsync over the snapshot<BR>

&gt;&gt; rsync -vXxpr  /snapshot/* /target<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; Unmount the snapshot<BR>

&gt;&gt; umount /snapshot<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; lvremove -f VolGroup00/snap<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; At this point I fixed the initrd, the fstab and grub.conf on the  <BR>

&gt;&gt; target to point to VolGroup01 instead of VolGroup00.<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; I would think this should be it.<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; What I get is.<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; root (hd0,0)<BR>

&gt;&gt; Filesystem type is .....<BR>

&gt;&gt; kerne /vmlinuz ......<BR>

&gt;&gt; Linux bzimage.....<BR>

&gt;&gt; initrd / initrd ....<BR>

&gt;&gt; Linux initrd<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; Decompresing Linux ... Done<BR>

&gt;&gt; Booting the kernel<BR>

&gt;&gt; Red Hat nash version 6,0,52 starting<BR>

&gt;&gt; Reading all physical volumes this make take awhile ....<BR>

&gt;&gt; Found volume group VolGroup01 now active<BR>

&gt;&gt; ERROR: exec of init (/sbin/init) failed failed!!!! No such file or  <BR>

&gt;&gt; directory<BR>

&gt;&gt; ERROR:  failed in exec of /bin/echo: No such file or directory<BR>

&gt;&gt; a couple messages about not finding /bin/sleep<BR>

&gt;&gt; Kernel Panic<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; I am not really sure where this is getting to. I thought it was  <BR>

&gt;&gt; getting to the initrd but now I am not sure.<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt;&gt; Thanks Nick<BR>

&gt;&gt;<BR>

&gt; In that NASH script runs just before the error the running system  <BR>

&gt; volumes are mounted. It is compiled at install time to mount the  <BR>

&gt; right LV. If the LV has changed the kernel will panic because it  <BR>

&gt; can't find /sbin/init. See here <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whoopis.com%2Fhowtos%2Flinux_lvm_recovery.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://www.whoopis.com/howtos/linux_lvm_recovery.html</span></a> <BR>

&gt;  adapt the narrative to suit your situation.<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; Ken<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; -- <BR>

&gt; This message has been scanned for viruses and<BR>

&gt; dangerous content by MailScanner, and is<BR>

&gt; believed to be clean.<BR>

&gt;<BR>

&gt; -- <BR>

&gt; fedora-list mailing list<BR>

&gt; <a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a><BR>

&gt; To unsubscribe: <a href="parse.pl?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redhat.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffedora-list" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list</span></a><BR>

&gt; Guidelines: <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Ffedoraproject.org%2Fwiki%2FCommunicate%2FMailingListGuidelines" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines</span></a><BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

------------------------------<BR>

<BR>

Message: 11<BR>

Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:34:40 +0000<BR>

From: g &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('geleem@bellsouth.net','','','')">geleem@bellsouth.net</a>&gt;<BR>

Subject: Re: error messages during ctorrent download<BR>

To: fedora list &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Message-ID: &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('48BE21F0.7000605@bellsouth.net','','','')">48BE21F0.7000605@bellsouth.net</a>&gt;<BR>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<BR>

<BR>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<BR>

Hash: SHA1<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:<BR>

<snip><BR>

&gt; Yes, I did in fact understand the snow thing. What I didn't understand<BR>

&gt; was the connection with "making statements".<BR>

<BR>

men can do it with out trouble. ;o)<BR>

<BR>

&gt; Sorry to hear that. I hope everything went OK (no need to elaborate).<BR>

<BR>

i do thank you for your concern. it is related to 'me mum'.<BR>

<BR>

with out elaborations, i am very concerned, doctor is mildly so. sample<BR>

[not cancer related, just a typical for elderly] to be taken tomorrow.<BR>

results will determine if 'home health' nurse handled 'things' correctly,<BR>

or a few days in hospital necessary.<BR>

<BR>

- --<BR>

tc,hago.<BR>

<BR>

g<BR>

.<BR>

<BR>

in a free world without fences, who needs gates.<BR>

<BR>

learn linux:<BR>

'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition'   <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Frute.2038bug.com%2Findex.html.gz" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz</span></a><BR>

'The Linux Documentation Project'   <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tldp.org%2F" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://www.tldp.org/</span></a><BR>

'HowtoForge'   <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fhowtoforge.com%2F" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://howtoforge.com/</span></a><BR>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<BR>

Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux)<BR>

Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fenigmail.mozdev.org" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://enigmail.mozdev.org</span></a><BR>

<BR>

iD8DBQFIviHw+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAsv+AJ4+d1dV8MzrHeBJEKwVFLYjpth08gCfcGfd<BR>

4/gvVlqrb5FZ73H+qLVgodQ=<BR>

=B8fr<BR>

-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

------------------------------<BR>

<BR>

Message: 12<BR>

Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 00:35:25 -0500<BR>

From: landon kelsey &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('landonmkelsey@hotmail.com','','','')">landonmkelsey@hotmail.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Subject: RE: Keeping Firefox+Flash from eating your CPU<BR>

To: "Community assistance, encouragement,        and advice for using<BR>

        Fedora."        &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Message-ID: &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('BAY117-W1589F5F3DC34EB1D20D6BA95E0@phx.gbl','','','')">BAY117-W1589F5F3DC34EB1D20D6BA95E0@phx.gbl</a>&gt;<BR>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

what is really great is the ad block<BR>

<BR>

but  that doesn't always allow a new entry<BR>

<BR>

to be added to the block list!<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

----------------------------------------<BR>

&gt; Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 00:56:29 -0400<BR>

&gt; From: <a href="javascript:top.opencompose('tmz@pobox.com','','','')">tmz@pobox.com</a><BR>

&gt; To: <a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a><BR>

&gt; Subject: Re: Keeping Firefox+Flash from eating your CPU<BR>

&gt; <BR>

&gt; Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:<BR>

&gt;&gt; In a recent issue of Salon, I read:<BR>

&gt;&gt;        Luckily, there's a small add-on program for Firefox that lets<BR>

&gt;&gt;        the user prevent Flash files from running automatically when a<BR>

&gt;&gt;        page loads, and it turns Firefox into a stable, efficient<BR>

&gt;&gt;        browser.<BR>

&gt;&gt; This appeared in:<BR>

&gt;&gt;        <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.salon.com%2Fwires%2Fap%2Fscitech%2F2008%2F09%2F02%2FD92V0RV01_tec_tech_test_google_chrome%2Findex.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://www.salon.com/wires/ap/scitech/2008/09/02/D92V0RV01_tec_tech_test_google_chrome/index.html</span></a><BR>

&gt;&gt; <BR>

&gt;&gt; Does anyone know what this application/applet/plugin is?  Is it<BR>

&gt;&gt; available for Linux?<BR>

&gt; <BR>

&gt; They're talking about Flashblock I believe (the article even mentions<BR>

&gt; the name near the end):<BR>

&gt; <BR>

&gt; <a href="parse.pl?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Faddons.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2Ffirefox%2Faddon%2F433" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433</span></a><BR>

&gt; <BR>

&gt; -- <BR>

&gt; Todd        OpenPGP -&gt; KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http://www.pobox.com%2F" target="_blank">www.pobox.com/</a>~tmz/pgp<BR>

&gt; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>

&gt; Never do today that which will become someone else's responsibility<BR>

&gt; tomorrow.<BR>

&gt; <BR>

<BR>

_________________________________________________________________<BR>

Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger.  Find out how.<BR>

<a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.windowslive.com%2Fexplore%2Fmessenger%3Focid%3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger\?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008</span></a><BR>

-------------- next part --------------<BR>

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>

URL: <a href="parse.pl?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redhat.com%2Farchives%2Ffedora-list%2Fattachments%2F20080903%2F7a05e115%2Fattachment.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20080903/7a05e115/attachment.html</span></a><BR>

<BR>

------------------------------<BR>

<BR>

Message: 13<BR>

Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 00:37:53 -0500<BR>

From: landon kelsey &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('landonmkelsey@hotmail.com','','','')">landonmkelsey@hotmail.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Subject: why does hotmail clump my spaced sentences on reply? sorry<BR>

        repeat<BR>

To: "Community assistance, encouragement,        and advice for using<BR>

        Fedora."        &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Message-ID: &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('BAY117-W511B0C1C56C006FE0E9472A95E0@phx.gbl','','','')">BAY117-W511B0C1C56C006FE0E9472A95E0@phx.gbl</a>&gt;<BR>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

what is really great is the ad block<BR>

<BR>

but  that doesn't always allow a new entry<BR>

<BR>

to be added to the block list!<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

----------------------------------------<BR>

&gt; Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 00:56:29 -0400<BR>

&gt; From: <a href="javascript:top.opencompose('tmz@pobox.com','','','')">tmz@pobox.com</a><BR>

&gt; To: <a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a><BR>

&gt; Subject: Re: Keeping Firefox+Flash from eating your CPU<BR>

&gt; <BR>

&gt; Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:<BR>

&gt;&gt; In a recent issue of Salon, I read:<BR>

&gt;&gt;        Luckily, there's a small add-on program for Firefox that lets<BR>

&gt;&gt;        the user prevent Flash files from running automatically when a<BR>

&gt;&gt;        page loads, and it turns Firefox into a stable, efficient<BR>

&gt;&gt;        browser.<BR>

&gt;&gt; This appeared in:<BR>

&gt;&gt;        <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.salon.com%2Fwires%2Fap%2Fscitech%2F2008%2F09%2F02%2FD92V0RV01_tec_tech_test_google_chrome%2Findex.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://www.salon.com/wires/ap/scitech/2008/09/02/D92V0RV01_tec_tech_test_google_chrome/index.html</span></a><BR>

&gt;&gt; <BR>

&gt;&gt; Does anyone know what this application/applet/plugin is?  Is it<BR>

&gt;&gt; available for Linux?<BR>

&gt; <BR>

&gt; They're talking about Flashblock I believe (the article even mentions<BR>

&gt; the name near the end):<BR>

&gt; <BR>

&gt; <a href="parse.pl?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Faddons.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2Ffirefox%2Faddon%2F433" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433</span></a><BR>

&gt; <BR>

&gt; -- <BR>

&gt; Todd        OpenPGP -&gt; KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http://www.pobox.com%2F" target="_blank">www.pobox.com/</a>~tmz/pgp<BR>

&gt; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>

&gt; Never do today that which will become someone else's responsibility<BR>

&gt; tomorrow.<BR>

&gt; <BR>

<BR>

_________________________________________________________________<BR>

Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger.  Find out how.<BR>

<a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.windowslive.com%2Fexplore%2Fmessenger%3Focid%3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger\?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008</span></a><BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

------------------------------<BR>

<BR>

Message: 14<BR>

Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:43:52 -0700<BR>

From: Sean Bruno &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('sean.bruno@dsl-only.net','','','')">sean.bruno@dsl-only.net</a>&gt;<BR>

Subject: Re: [F8 x86_64] Pulseaudio w/USB Audio Device<BR>

To: "Community assistance, encouragement,        and advice for using<BR>

        Fedora." &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Message-ID: &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('1220420632.4847.0.camel@home-desk','','','')">1220420632.4847.0.camel@home-desk</a>&gt;<BR>

Content-Type: text/plain<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 23:06 -0400, Chris Tyler wrote:<BR>

&gt; On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 19:50 -0700, Sean Bruno wrote:<BR>

&gt; &gt; With my USB Turntable connected when I login to my desktop, pulseaudio<BR>

&gt; &gt; sets it's default "sink" to the USB Audio subsystem instead of my<BR>

&gt; &gt; onboard audio card.<BR>

&gt; &gt; <BR>

&gt; &gt; I had the same issue with alsa many moons ago, and was able to work<BR>

&gt; &gt; around that with some modprobe.conf foo.  Now, my configuration hacks<BR>

&gt; &gt; don't seem to be able to tame the pulseaudio demon and I am at a loss.<BR>

&gt; &gt; <BR>

&gt; &gt; Any guidance on how to get pulseaudio to use the sound device I choose<BR>

&gt; &gt; as the default sink?<BR>

&gt; &gt; <BR>

&gt; &gt; Sean<BR>

&gt; <BR>

&gt; Try this: Start [Applications&gt;Sound &amp; Video&gt;PulseAudio Volume Control],<BR>

&gt; right-click on your favorite sink, select "Default".<BR>

&gt; <BR>

&gt; -Chris<BR>

&gt; <BR>

<BR>

Ah....right-click....Thanks!<BR>

<BR>

A tad unintuitive, but works great!  <BR>

<BR>

Sean<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

------------------------------<BR>

<BR>

Message: 15<BR>

Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 15:47:57 +1000<BR>

From: Cameron Simpson &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('cs@zip.com.au','','','')">cs@zip.com.au</a>&gt;<BR>

Subject: Re: Keeping Firefox+Flash from eating your CPU<BR>

To: "Community assistance, encouragement,        and advice for using<BR>

        Fedora." &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>&gt;<BR>

Message-ID: &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('20080903054757.GA25656@cskk.homeip.net','','','')">20080903054757.GA25656@cskk.homeip.net</a>&gt;<BR>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<BR>

<BR>

On 03Sep2008 00:35, landon kelsey &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('landonmkelsey@hotmail.com','','','')">landonmkelsey@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<BR>

| what is really great is the ad block<BR>

| but  that doesn't always allow a new entry<BR>

| to be added to the block list!<BR>

<BR>

Ad block is a blacklist (you ad stuff you want blocked).<BR>

Flashblock is a whitelist (blocks all flash, you add things you will let<BR>

run).<BR>

I personally prefer the latter.<BR>

<BR>

NoScript is also very useful.<BR>

<BR>

BTW, in FF3 (on a Mac) the block menu item appears to be missing from<BR>

mousing over the flash (it's available in FF2). Does anyone know about<BR>

this?<BR>

-- <BR>

Cameron Simpson &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('cs@zip.com.au','','','')">cs@zip.com.au</a>&gt; DoD#743<BR>

<a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cskk.ezoshosting.com%2Fcs%2F" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/</span></a><BR>

<BR>

Tis better to have test ridden and lost, than to never have test ridden at all.<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

------------------------------<BR>

<BR>

--<BR>

fedora-list mailing list<BR>

<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('fedora-list@redhat.com','','','')">fedora-list@redhat.com</a><BR>

<a href="parse.pl?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redhat.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffedora-list" target="_blank"><span style="color: red;">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list</span></a><BR>

<BR>

End of fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 19<BR>

*******************************************<BR>

)<BR>

</snip></snip></g9kuqg$452$></blockquote></HTML>
<BR>