On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 17:48, Ryan Lynch <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ryan.b.lynch@gmail.com">ryan.b.lynch@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class="h5">On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 16:55, Kevin J. Cummings <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cummings@kjchome.homeip.net" target="_blank">cummings@kjchome.homeip.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></div>
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<div>On 08/22/2009 04:00 PM, Ryan Lynch wrote:<br>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 15:44, Kevin J. Cummings<br>
</div><div><div>> <<a href="mailto:cummings@kjchome.homeip.net" target="_blank">cummings@kjchome.homeip.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:cummings@kjchome.homeip.net" target="_blank">cummings@kjchome.homeip.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> On 08/22/2009 03:39 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote:<br>
> > On 08/22/2009 12:24:08 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:<br>
> >> On 08/22/2009 03:17 PM, Ryan Lynch wrote:<br>
> >>> Running 'yum update' from the command line, I am getting some file<br>
> >>> conflicts between different arch/versions of the 'glibc' and<br>
> >>> 'glibc-common' packages. This machine runs F11-x86_64.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Here's the actual error output:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> <code><br>
> >>> Transaction Check Error:<br>
> >>> file /usr/share/doc/glibc-2.10.1/NEWS from install of<br>
> >>> glibc-2.10.1-4.i686 conflicts with file from package<br>
> >> glibc-2.10.1-2.x86_64<br>
> >>> file /usr/bin/ldd from install of glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586<br>
> >> conflicts<br>
> >>> with file from package glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64<br>
> >>> file /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive.tmpl from install of<br>
> >>> glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package<br>
> >>> glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64<br>
> >>> file /usr/share/doc/glibc-common-2.10.1/ChangeLog.bz2 from<br>
> >> install<br>
> >> of<br>
> >>> glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package<br>
> >>> glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64<br>
> >>> file /usr/share/i18n/locales/de_AT from install of<br>
> >>> glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package<br>
> >>> glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64<br>
> >>> </code><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Is this a known issue, or did I screw something up?<br>
> >><br>
> >> Something is screwed up. Possibly on your system. glibc-common.i586<br>
> >> is<br>
> >> conflicting with glibc-common.i686. I think you need one and not the<br>
> >> other. Since you system is a base x86_64, I would suggest trying the<br>
> >> following:<br>
> >><br>
> >> # yum shell<br>
> >>> remove glibc-common.i586<br>
> >>> install glibc-common.i686<br>
> >>> run<br>
> >><br>
> >> and see if that helps....<br>
> ><br>
> > Hmmmm ... perhaps install glibc-common.x86_64? i686 is still 32 bit.<br>
><br>
> Not if its a multi-lib problem. I assumed that the x86_64 part would<br>
> straighten itself out.... But yes, he needs to ensure that all of his<br>
> secondary libs are either all i586 or all i686 (where he has a choice<br>
> between the two) and that they co-exist well with their x86_64<br>
> counterparts (which should be the primary concern anyways).<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Here's the output of `yum list installed glibc-common glibc`, for reference:<br>
><br>
> <code><br>
> Installed Packages<br>
> glibc.i686 2.10.1-2 installed<br>
> glibc.x86_64 2.10.1-2 installed<br>
> glibc-common.x86_64 2.10.1-2 installed<br>
> </code><br>
><br>
> I tried `yum remove glibc.i686`, but it wants to remove 116 packages,<br>
> for dependencies. Mostly, it looks like stuff I installed while getting<br>
> Skype for Linux to run, so I'm pretty sure its going to break some<br>
> things if I remove it all. <br></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>
</div></div>Ryan,<br>
You are barking up the wrong tree. Your problem is<br>
glibc-common.i586. Something is trying to install this package and it<br>
conflicts with your currently installed glibc-common.i686.<br>
You need to track down where that dependency is coming from and deal<br>
with it.</blockquote></div></div><div><br><br>No, I'm pretty sure that's the right tree :-) I didn't post the whole output of 'yum update', though, so that's not your fault. See below.<br>
<br> </div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>
> Isn't this a packaging bug? There's no conflict between my<br>
> currently-installed 'glibc.i686' and 'glib.x86_64' (2.10.1-2), although<br>
> there is a conflict between the two archs' 'glibc-common' packages.<br>
<br>
</div><br>Possibly, but we need to know what is causing it first. i586/i686 are<br>
not meant to be multilib (like x86_64/i686 is).</blockquote></div><div><br><br>I don't mean to be rude, but I think you have some misconceptions about how i686 and i586 work on Fedora, before we go any further:<br>
<br>
* There is no glibc-common.i686 package. It doesn't exist, either on
my system or anywhere in stable Fedora. Go take a look at at the
repos, right now, and confirm that. (There is such a package in
Rawhide, but that's not relevant, here.)<br>
<br>
* Many source RPMs don't have an i686 binary package, at all. Instead, they have an i586 or i386 package for 32-bit. OpenSSH is like this (go check for yourself), and there are
others. I don't exactly know why this is, but it's perfectly valid to have a mix of i586 and i686 packages on a Fedora system.<br>
<br> * glibc-2.10.1-4.i686 is the package causing YUM to pull in glibc-common.i586. Here's the snippet from my original 'yum update' command:<br><br><output><br>---> Package glibc.i686 0:2.10.1-4 set to be updated <br>
--> Processing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.10.1-4 for package: glibc-2.10.1-4.i686<br></output><br><br>
* glibc-2.10.1-2.i686 depends on 'glibc-common = 2.10.1-2', but it apparently tolerates either the i586 OR the x86_64 version of 'glibc-common'. The 2.10.1-4.i686 update, however, changed its dependencies: It only accepts the i586 arch of 'glibc-common'. You can confirm this by comparing:<br>
<br> - `yum deplist glibc-2.10.1-2.i686 | grep glibc-common`:<br><output><br> dependency: glibc-common = 2.10.1-2<br> provider: glibc-common.x86_64 2.10.1-2<br> provider: glibc-common.i586 2.10.1-2<br> dependency: glibc-common = 2.10.1-2<br>
provider: glibc-common.x86_64 2.10.1-2<br> provider: glibc-common.i586 2.10.1-2<br></output><br><br>against:<br><br> - `yum deplist glibc-2.10.1-4.i686 | grep glibc-common`:<br><output><br> dependency: glibc-common = 2.10.1-4<br>
provider: glibc-common.i586 2.10.1-4<br></output><br>
<br>IN SHORT: The package 'glibc.i686' changes its dependencies from the -2 release to -4. Previously, my 'glibc-common.x86_64' was sufficient to satisfy 'glibc.i686', whereas now, it *must* have 'glibc-common.i586'.<br>
<br>All that make sense? I think at this point, I need to find out why that change happened, and whether there's anything to be done about it upstream.<br><br>-Ryan<br></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br>Slap my forehead, will ya? There was no change in the 'glibc.i686' package, that's not what 'yum deplist' was telling me. The problem was that YUM can't see the update for glibc-common-2.10.1-4.x86_64, so it THINKS the only package that will satisfy the dependency is glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586. That, in turn, creates the conflict.<br>
<br>It looks like glibc is designed to allow both 64 and 32 bit versions to coexist in harmony, but not glibc-common. Instead, it lets you use the 64-bit glibc-common package to satisfy any 32-bit package deps you might have.<br>
<br>So, why can't YUM see the updated glibc-common.x86_64 package? Because my repo mirror is out of date! (DUH!)<br><br>-Ryan<br><br>