<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Allan Swanepoel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:allanice001@gmail.com">allanice001@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:55 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hugh@mimosa.com" target="_blank">hugh@mimosa.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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| From: Allan Swanepoel <<a href="mailto:allanice001@gmail.com" target="_blank">allanice001@gmail.com</a>><br>
<div><br>
| On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan <<a href="mailto:jonrysh@pacbell.net" target="_blank">jonrysh@pacbell.net</a>>wrote:<br>
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| > On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 10:09 -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:<br>
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</div><div>| > > Why was the command dropped? Would it no longer work? Is there<br>
| > > another way provided to accomplish the same thing?<br>
| > ><br>
| > > I think SuSE dropped the command too. Debian and Ubuntu have it in the<br>
| > > fdutils package.<br>
| ><br>
| > I would download the fdutils package from <a href="http://fdutils.linux.lu" target="_blank">http://fdutils.linux.lu</a> , try<br>
| > to compile and install them, and (if that works) then see what happens.<br>
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</div>Jonathan:<br>
<br>
Sure, but there must have been a reason for it being dropped. I also<br>
suspect that when RedHat supported it, they patched it (I haven't<br>
checked).<br>
<div><br>
| technically, if the physical device is in your bios, you should see a<br>
| /dev/floppy device .you should be able to mount this, or just dd it to a<br>
| file<br>
| dd if=/dev/floppy of=img1.img<br>
<br>
</div>Allan:<br>
<br>
See fd(4). If you use /dev/fd1, the driver tries to autoconfigure the<br>
interface. But I doubt that it can do so for oddball things like quad<br>
density and 10 sectors/track. fd(4) doesn't talk about quad density<br>
but setfdprm(8) does.<br>
<br>
I'm trying Fedora Core 3 on the box. dding from /dev/fd1 gets a lot<br>
of errors. Here are the first few (from dmesg):<br>
end_request: I/O error, dev fd1, sector 18<br>
Buffer I/O error on device fd1, logical block 2<br>
end_request: I/O error, dev fd1, sector 24<br>
Buffer I/O error on device fd1, logical block 3<br>
end_request: I/O error, dev fd1, sector 32<br>
Buffer I/O error on device fd1, logical block 4<br>
end_request: I/O error, dev fd1, sector 40<br>
Buffer I/O error on device fd1, logical block 5<br>
<br>
I don't quite know what those mean. Is sector 18 in logical block 2?<br>
That would seem odd. Note that these errors are in dmesg and so are<br>
from the kernel, not dd.<br>
<br>
I tried a more modest dd:<br>
dd if=/dev/fd1 of=1 bs=512 count=1<br>
The dd printed the in and out count and yet the drive continued to<br>
make seeking noises (and perhaps recalibrating noises) afterwards for<br>
a couple of seconds. Odd. There were no error messages.<br>
<br>
The whole block is 0. I don't know if that is expected (I don't<br>
remember how the machine that wrote it laid down a 7th edition file<br>
system on a floppy). The machine was a Nabu 1600, not a PC clone (it<br>
predates PC clones).<br>
<font color="#888888"><br></font></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>btw, if at first you don,t succeed, ask google</div><div><a href="http://minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/">http://minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/</a></div>
<div><a href="http://minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/"></a> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<font color="#888888"></font></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div>firstly, it could be that the floppies are stuffed. These are among the first magnetic disks I know of. Any electronic interference could make these go haywire. How close are they to your cellphone? </div>
<div>secondly, there could be a blown circuit on the controller board. this is capable of giving bad reads, as is a damaged cable.</div><div>and lastly, WTF are you doing with a machine that belongs in a museum next to the the freaking ark???</div>
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