<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 22:00, Patrick O'Callaghan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pocallaghan@gmail.com">pocallaghan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class="h5">On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 21:01 -0200, Andre Costa wrote:<br>
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 19:59, Patrick O'Callaghan<br>
> <<a href="mailto:pocallaghan@gmail.com">pocallaghan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 12:49 -0700, john wendel wrote:<br>
> > On 10/24/2009 09:44 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:<br>
> > > On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 09:41 -0700, john wendel wrote:<br>
> > >>> I find it interesting that the Apple TV ads do play on<br>
> F11, which is<br>
> > >> an<br>
> > >>> admission that QT is a niche format.<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> poc<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >><br>
> > >> I just installed gecko-mediaplayer (F11) and it plays the<br>
> trailers at<br>
> > >> <a href="http://apple.com" target="_blank">apple.com</a> just fine.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > If you mean the TV ads, then that's what I said. If you<br>
> mean the other<br>
> > > stuff, e.g. <a href="http://www.apple.com/imac/the-new-imac/#small" target="_blank">http://www.apple.com/imac/the-new-imac/#small</a><br>
> then no, and I<br>
> > > do have gecko-mediaplayer installed.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > poc<br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> > No, I mean the trailers at <a href="http://www.apple.com/trailers" target="_blank">www.apple.com/trailers</a>. I just<br>
> player the HD<br>
> > version of the trailer for "Red Cliff". Worked perfectly. I<br>
> also tried<br>
> > your imac url. It also played (but it was too boring to<br>
> watch more that<br>
> > 2 minutes of the 7:09).<br>
><br>
><br>
> The movie trailers do work. The Apple promo stuff doesn't<br>
> (except for<br>
> the TV ads as I said).<br>
><br>
> > Do you have the full mplayer codec pack installed?<br>
><br>
><br>
> I believe so, but since it's not an RPM I'd have to check the<br>
> files one<br>
> by one. The latest codecs tarball on the Mplayer site is a<br>
> couple of<br>
> years old so I doubt that's the problem.<br>
><br>
> AFAIK you only need to have all the gstreamer-plugins-* packages (and,<br>
> of course, their dependencies). Here's what I have:<br>
><br>
><br>
> ~ rpm -qa | grep gstreamer-plugins<br>
> gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.13-7.fc11.x86_64<br>
> gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-4.fc11.x86_64<br>
> gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.12-2.fc11.x86_64<br>
> gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.25-1.fc11.x86_64<br>
> gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux-0.10.15-6.fc11.x86_64<br>
><br>
><br>
> (BTW I had to install some of them -- the "ugly" package IIRC -- by<br>
> hand, dependencies were not being pulled automatically)<br>
<br>
</div></div>$ rpm -qa \*gstreamer-plugins\*<br>
<div class="im">gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.13-7.fc11.x86_64<br>
</div><div class="im">gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.12-2.fc11.x86_64<br>
gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-4.fc11.x86_64<br>
</div><div class="im">gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.25-1.fc11.x86_64<br>
gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux-0.10.15-6.fc11.x86_64<br>
<br>
</div>Looks identical.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> I just replaced totem-mozplugin with gecko-mediaplayer, and trailers<br>
> are playing just fine again.<br>
<br>
</div>I had both of them for some reason. Once I removed totem-mozplugin and<br>
restarted FF, the Apple stuff worked.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Most likely this was the problem: probably totem-mozplugin was being picked instead of gecko-mediaplayer.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">
> This is good because there's a way out after all, but on the other<br>
> hand this is bad for totem (and Fedora) since it means that default<br>
> installations will fail to play the trailers (question: will this be<br>
> the case for F12 as well?), and on the user's eyes it will be one of<br>
> those cases where Fedora is "quite not there yet".<br>
><br>
><br>
> I just did some quick searching on Fedora bugzilla to see if this has<br>
> already been filed as a totem or totem-mozplugin bug, but did not find<br>
> anything. Does anyone know if it's already there? If it's not,<br>
> developers have all the reasons not to have addressed it yet... :-(<br>
<br>
</div>Default installations are never going to have the non-free codecs in any<br>
case. The user will always have to install them for himself.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>You're right. What I meant is that, even if you install the codecs (which are automatically suggested if you try to watch a trailer), it won't work until you replace the default media player plugin for another one. That's one step further, it's not intuitive and shouldn't be necessary IMHO.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Andre</div></div>