Hi <a href="mailto:siddhesh.poyarekar@gmail.com">siddhesh.poyarekar@gmail.com</a><br>Thanks for your reply.<br>I did in same way but the monitor is not detecting. It is displaying no signal.<br>Yes I would like to mention that its 64 bit system.<br>
I have been trying it since one month and I have search the net almost everyday for the solution but no luck yet.<br>Thanks<br>Pankaj<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:06 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:users-request@lists.fedoraproject.org">users-request@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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1. Re: can't set Okular as helper pdf app in Firefox (Rex Dieter)<br>
2. Re: can't set Okular as helper pdf app in Firefox (Rex Dieter)<br>
3. Re: USB to parallel port printer adapter does not work<br>
anymore. (F13) (Tim)<br>
4. Why are 0 karma updates still being released? (Mike Fedyk)<br>
5. Re: screen res problem (Dale J. Chatham)<br>
6. Re: Ugly little hand [Solved] (Jonathan Ryshpan)<br>
7. fnfx trouble on Toshiba (Yogesh)<br>
8. Re: Why are 0 karma updates still being released?<br>
(Stephen Gallagher)<br>
9. Re: Why are 0 karma updates still being released?<br>
(Sam Varshavchik)<br>
10. Re: screen res problem (Craig White)<br>
11. Re: twin display f12 (Siddhesh Poyarekar)<br>
12. Re: Removing/Cemsoring bad Fedora mirrors? (Daniel B. Thurman)<br>
13. Re: Chromium by default? (Rahul Sundaram)<br>
14. Re: netinst images: What's the point? (Richard Shaw)<br>
15. Re: netinst images: What's the point? (Rahul Sundaram)<br>
16. Re: Chromium by default? (Genes MailLists)<br>
17. Re: F13 installation: successful with small problem and<br>
larger one. (Richard Shaw)<br>
<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Rex Dieter <<a href="mailto:rdieter@math.unl.edu">rdieter@math.unl.edu</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org">users@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:56:30 -0500<br>Subject: Re: can't set Okular as helper pdf app in Firefox<br>Claude Jones wrote:<br>
<br>
> On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 01:30:45 pm Rex Dieter wrote:<br>
>> So, long-story-short, not sure why firefox isn't using these items for<br>
>> you.<br>
><br>
> long-story-short, I looked at those files and Okular was definitely listed<br>
> as the relevant app - that's all, I just looked, changing nothing<br>
<br>
OK, I can reproduce the problem now. :(<br>
<br>
I'll bang on it awhile, and let you know when/if I find any solutions.<br>
<br>
-- Rex<br>
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:59:52 -0500<br>Subject: Re: can't set Okular as helper pdf app in Firefox<br>Rex Dieter wrote:<br>
<br>
> Claude Jones wrote:<br>
><br>
>> On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 01:30:45 pm Rex Dieter wrote:<br>
>>> So, long-story-short, not sure why firefox isn't using these items for<br>
>>> you.<br>
>><br>
>> long-story-short, I looked at those files and Okular was definitely<br>
>> listed as the relevant app - that's all, I just looked, changing nothing<br>
><br>
> OK, I can reproduce the problem now. :(<br>
><br>
> I'll bang on it awhile, and let you know when/if I find any solutions.<br>
<br>
I take it back, I had a local pref set in<br>
~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list<br>
that was getting in the way. How about you?<br>
<br>
-- Rex<br>
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:56:41 +0930<br>Subject: Re: USB to parallel port printer adapter does not work anymore. (F13)<br>On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 11:54 -0700, Mick M. wrote:<br>
> Any help appreciated<br>
<br>
Since you say "any help," if you cannot overcome this problem, or wish<br>
to avoid similar problems in the future, I reckon that parallel to<br>
network adaptors, rather than parallel to USB, are far more useful.<br>
<br>
--<br>
[tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r<br>
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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 17:31:29 -0700<br>Subject: Why are 0 karma updates still being released?<br>Here is a sampling of the recent updates that have been pushed to<br>
stable. There are more, I didn't look at every update.<br>
<br>
Released straight to stable:<br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gdb-7.0.1-47.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gdb-7.0.1-47.fc12</a><br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ClanLib-2.1.1-1.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ClanLib-2.1.1-1.fc12</a><br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fuse-convmvfs-0.2.5-1.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fuse-convmvfs-0.2.5-1.fc12</a><br>
<br>
Pushed to testing and then to stable a few days later with zero karma.<br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bti-026-1.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bti-026-1.fc12</a><br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/vidalia-0.2.9-1.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/vidalia-0.2.9-1.fc12</a><br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/EekBoek-2.00.02-1.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/EekBoek-2.00.02-1.fc12</a><br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fsarchiver-0.6.10-1.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fsarchiver-0.6.10-1.fc12</a><br>
<br>
Why are we still pushing to stable or submitting directly to stable<br>
without people other than the packager testing it?<br>
<br>
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 19:54:48 -0500<br>Subject: Re: screen res problem<br><humor><br>
<br>
Uh, dude. I'm an amateur astronomer and truly enjoy "exploring the stars". .<br>
<br>
No need to insult us stargazers :)<br>
<br>
</humor><br>
<br>
This is an individual not suited to have any interaction with humans<br>
<br>
On 06/02/2010 06:05 PM, jack craig wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Of course he is a "Superior Being". Don't you realize this he is...<br>
<br>
Dave Ocame, WS1ETI<br>
Awards Chair<br>
The SETILeague, Inc<br>
<br>
Stony Creek Observatory<br>
FN31og<br>
-72.834 longitude<br>
41.272 latitude<br>
Member: The SETILeague, Inc. and,<br>
The Society for Amateur Radio Astronomy (SARA) and,<br>
The Planetary Society<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
I doubt his porcupine personality is suited for more than exploring the<br>
stars.<br>
Gawd forbid he actually encounters any real intelligence out there...<br>
<br>
they keep those observatories way out in the sticks for more than one<br>
reason! :-D<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:01:58 -0700<br>Subject: Re: Ugly little hand [Solved]<br>On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 19:55 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:<br>
> The cursor that displays over desktop icons and links in Firefox, among<br>
> other places -- a little black hand pointing up -- is really ugly. (At<br>
> least I think so.) How can it be changed?<br>
> Appearance Preferences->Theme->Customize Theme<br>
> allows changing the default cursor but not others.<br>
<br>
I was confused because only one cursor-theme was installed, namely<br>
dmz-cursor-theme (the default), which made gnome cursor control<br>
System->Preferences->Appearance->Customize Theme->Pointer<br>
seem not to be good for anything. As soon as I loaded some other<br>
themes, namely:<br>
bluecurve-cursor-theme-8.0.2.5.fc12.noarch<br>
moblin-cursor-theme-0.3.2.noarch<br>
oxygen-cursor-themes-4.4.3.1.fc13.1.noarch<br>
this choice box became very useful.<br>
<br>
> Same question for the whirling circle that displays when the system is<br>
> busy.<br>
<br>
This may be better too. Haven't been able to check so far.<br>
<br>
Thanks to all - jon<br>
<br>
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<br>
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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 21:05:24 -0400<br>Subject: fnfx trouble on Toshiba<br><div dir="ltr"><font face="'trebuchet ms', sans-serif">Hello,</font><div><font face="'trebuchet ms', sans-serif"><br></font></div>
<div><font face="'trebuchet ms', sans-serif">I have very recently migrated to Fedora from Windows. I have installed it on my Toshiba L505-S5971 laptop.</font></div>
<div><font face="'trebuchet ms', sans-serif">I installe</font>d <font face="'courier new', monospace">fnfx </font><font face="'trebuchet ms', sans-serif">after reading about it in some forum. That went fine.</font></div>
<div><font face="'trebuchet ms', sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="'trebuchet ms', sans-serif">Now with every boot I get the following message.</font></div>
<div><font face="'trebuchet ms', sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="'trebuchet ms', sans-serif"><div><font face="'courier new', monospace">Starting fnfxd: modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting toshiba_acpi (/lib/modules/2.6.33.5-112.fc13.i686/kernel/drivers/platform/x86/toshiba_acpi.ko): No such device</font></div>
<div><font face="'courier new', monospace"><br></font></div><div><font face="'courier new', monospace">FnFX Daemon v0.3 (c) 2003, 2004 Timo Hoenig <<a href="mailto:thoenig@nouse.net" target="_blank">thoenig@nouse.net</a>></font></div>
<div><font face="'courier new', monospace"><br></font></div><div><font face="'courier new', monospace">fatal error: Could open /proc/acpi/toshiba/keys.</font></div>
<div><font face="'courier new', monospace"><br></font></div><div><font face="'courier new', monospace">Please make sure that your kernel has enabled the Toshiba option in the ACPI section.</font></div>
<div><font face="'courier new', monospace">For more information read the documentation and/or <a href="http://fnfx.sf.net/index.php?section=doc#kernel" target="_blank">http://fnfx.sf.net/index.php?section=doc#kernel</a></font>.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Currently, the hotkeys are not working. Also, I guess, there is not control over the CPU fan. It is being used heavily and all the time. It makes noise.</div><div><br></div><div>Can someone help me with this? How should I go about this?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br></div><div>-Yogesh</div></font></div></div>
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:11:19 -0400<br>Subject: Re: Why are 0 karma updates still being released?<br>On 06/02/2010 08:31 PM, Mike Fedyk wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Here is a sampling of the recent updates that have been pushed to<br>
stable. There are more, I didn't look at every update.<br>
<br>
Released straight to stable:<br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gdb-7.0.1-47.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gdb-7.0.1-47.fc12</a><br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ClanLib-2.1.1-1.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ClanLib-2.1.1-1.fc12</a><br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fuse-convmvfs-0.2.5-1.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fuse-convmvfs-0.2.5-1.fc12</a><br>
<br>
Pushed to testing and then to stable a few days later with zero karma.<br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bti-026-1.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bti-026-1.fc12</a><br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/vidalia-0.2.9-1.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/vidalia-0.2.9-1.fc12</a><br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/EekBoek-2.00.02-1.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/EekBoek-2.00.02-1.fc12</a><br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fsarchiver-0.6.10-1.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fsarchiver-0.6.10-1.fc12</a><br>
<br>
Why are we still pushing to stable or submitting directly to stable<br>
without people other than the packager testing it?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I can't speak for the specific packages above, but I will sometimes push a package stable to Fedora N-1 that is identical to a package in Fedora N if the package in Fedora N got sufficient Karma. Maybe that's what happened here?<br>
<br>
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<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Sam Varshavchik <<a href="mailto:mrsam@courier-mta.com">mrsam@courier-mta.com</a>><br>To: Community support for Fedora users <<a href="mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org">users@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:17:20 -0400<br>Subject: Re: Why are 0 karma updates still being released?<br>Mike Fedyk writes:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Pushed to testing and then to stable a few days later with zero karma.<br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bti-026-1.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bti-026-1.fc12</a><br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/vidalia-0.2.9-1.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/vidalia-0.2.9-1.fc12</a><br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/EekBoek-2.00.02-1.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/EekBoek-2.00.02-1.fc12</a><br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fsarchiver-0.6.10-1.fc12" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fsarchiver-0.6.10-1.fc12</a><br>
<br>
Why are we still pushing to stable or submitting directly to stable<br>
without people other than the packager testing it?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Maybe because nobody is aware that something's waiting for some karma out there?<br>
<br>
I see that openssh was pushed to stable recently. I might've been willing to grab it from testing and give it whirl, but I'm not sure how I would've known about it. Whatever this errata fixed, it obviously didn't affect me, so I was not aware of the open bug, and a pending errata.<br>
<br>
It's just a hunch, but here's what I think happens most of the time: someone files a bug, the maintainer picks it up, fixes the bug, pushes the package to testing.<br>
<br>
So, you've really got just the bug reporter who's interested in the errata, and is even aware of a package. And most of the time it's an ordinary user who is not even aware of the underlying infrastructure. A canned message gets appended to the Bugzilla entry, saying something to the effect that a package was "pushed" somewhere. The bug reporter may not be aware of the fact that there's some kind of a mechanism to rate the pending update. The bug reporter is most likely waiting until he gets a popup from Packagekit, telling him that an update is ready.<br>
<br>
I had someone file a bug against my small, obscure package. It was an enhancement. I finally got around to coding it, tarring it up (I'm my own upstream), then grabbing it with my maintainer hat, building it, and pushing it to testing.<br>
<br>
So, how long should I wait for some karma? In the past, I've waited two weeks before requesting a push to stable. Is there a policy document somewhere that lays down the law, on this?<br>
<br>
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:42:57 -0700<br>Subject: Re: screen res problem<br>On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 19:54 -0500, Dale J. Chatham wrote:<br>
> <humor><br>
><br>
> Uh, dude. I'm an amateur astronomer and truly enjoy "exploring the<br>
> stars". .<br>
><br>
> No need to insult us stargazers :)<br>
><br>
> </humor><br>
><br>
----<br>
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name.<br>
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Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 08:46:15 +0530<br>Subject: Re: twin display f12<br>On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 4:01 AM, pankaj singh <<a href="mailto:simranjanu@gmail.com">simranjanu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> twin display on fedora 12<br>
><br>
> Hello friend I have HP pavilion dv4 laptop and fedora 12 is installed on<br>
> that. I would like to display the laptop screen on other monitor. I do not<br>
> have NVIDIA graphics card.<br>
> Can anybody help me setting the laptop display on the external monitor.<br>
<br>
In most cases it is just the matter of plugging in the other monitor<br>
and starting the gnome-display-properties program (System ><br>
Preferences > Monitors or Screens) and "turning on" the other monitor<br>
through it. Be sure that the physical monitor is turned on too.<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Siddhesh Poyarekar<br>
<a href="http://siddhesh.in" target="_blank">http://siddhesh.in</a><br>
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<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: "Daniel B. Thurman" <<a href="mailto:dant@cdkkt.com">dant@cdkkt.com</a>><br>To: Community support for Fedora users <<a href="mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org">users@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 20:26:46 -0700<br>Subject: Re: Removing/Cemsoring bad Fedora mirrors?<br>On 06/02/2010 03:20 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:<br>
> Daniel B. Thurman writes:<br>
><br>
>> One would think that yum can detect "hangs" and<br>
>> move on to the next mirror to pick up the slack,<br>
>> but this is not the case, or so I am led to believe...<br>
><br>
> It's been my consistent experience that yum waits about 30 seconds or<br>
> so, before giving up and going to the next mirror.<br>
><br>
Yes, that is true for a "behaving mirror", but in my case,<br>
and on F12, it hangs a very long time (I went away for 30<br>
minutes... came back, and no go!)<br>
<br>
So... it was strange.<br>
<br>
Seems that the hang in that mirror in question had<br>
a firm grip on the connection and would not time out<br>
at all OR yum thinks somehow the connection is still<br>
live even though there is no activity whatsoever. I<br>
had to ^C the yum connection to break yum, blacklist<br>
the offending mirror and try again. This time it worked.<br>
<br>
Strange.<br>
<br>
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<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Rahul Sundaram <<a href="mailto:metherid@gmail.com">metherid@gmail.com</a>><br>To: Community support for Fedora users <<a href="mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org">users@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 08:58:39 +0530<br>Subject: Re: Chromium by default?<br>On 06/01/2010 01:54 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote:<br>
> Chrome/Chromium browser has more than 70 million users[3], much more<br>
> than Fedora itself, for me that proves it is a good and stable<br>
> browser.<br>
><br>
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I think that assertion is wrong. Firefox has more users but more<br>
importantly, the large majority of Chrome users are unlikely to be using<br>
Linux and a even smaller percentage would be using Chromium and a even<br>
smaller percentage would be using Spot's repo in Fedora and that's the<br>
number that actually counts.<br>
<br>
Rahul<br>
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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:31:03 -0500<br>Subject: Re: netinst images: What's the point?<br>On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Richard Shaw <<a href="mailto:hobbes1069@gmail.com">hobbes1069@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Joseph L. Casale<br>
> <<a href="mailto:jcasale@activenetwerx.com">jcasale@activenetwerx.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>I'm not sure what's wrong, I just know it never asks me to initialize<br>
>>>a network connection unless I specify "askmethod", then it does it in<br>
>>>the non-graphical part of the setup.<br>
>><br>
>> I just pulled the x86 iso down (only had x64) and whipped up a vm in esxi<br>
>> w/ an emulated E1000 nic and it asked me to initialize the nic once I hit<br>
>> the gui before the package selection step.<br>
>><br>
>> What kind of nic do you have? Maybe a bug wrt your hardware only?<br>
><br>
> I'll try booting the image in Virtualbox and see if it prompts me for nic init.<br>
<br>
Well sure enough, I tried several different options in anaconda under<br>
virtualbox and it asked me to init my nic every time. At this point I<br>
don't know if it's a problem of using the livecd tools, which is<br>
unlikely, or that it doesn't see the nic on my netbook, which seems<br>
equally unlikely since I had F12 running on it quite well without any<br>
3rd party drivers.<br>
<br>
One thing I do know, the error message could be far more useful.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Richard<br>
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:03:43 +0530<br>Subject: Re: netinst images: What's the point?<br>On 06/03/2010 09:01 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:<br>
> Well sure enough, I tried several different options in anaconda under<br>
> virtualbox and it asked me to init my nic every time. At this point I<br>
> don't know if it's a problem of using the livecd tools, which is<br>
> unlikely, or that it doesn't see the nic on my netbook, which seems<br>
> equally unlikely since I had F12 running on it quite well without any<br>
> 3rd party drivers.<br>
><br>
> One thing I do know, the error message could be far more useful.<br>
><br>
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Yeah. File a bug report against Anaconda and followup on it.<br>
<br>
Rahul<br>
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 00:05:45 -0400<br>Subject: Re: Chromium by default?<br>On 06/02/2010 11:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:<br>
> On 06/01/2010 01:54 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote:<br>
>> Chrome/Chromium browser has more than 70 million users[3], much more<br>
>> than Fedora itself, for me that proves it is a good and stable<br>
>> browser.<br>
>><br>
><br>
> I think that assertion is wrong. Firefox has more users but more<br>
> importantly, the large majority of Chrome users are unlikely to be using<br>
> Linux and a even smaller percentage would be using Chromium and a even<br>
> smaller percentage would be using Spot's repo in Fedora and that's the<br>
> number that actually counts.<br>
><br>
> Rahul<br>
<br>
<br>
Whilst above is true - the vast majority of linux users may very well<br>
be or will be using chrome even if they are not the majority of chrome<br>
users. Obviously because Linux is not the majority of desktop os' users<br>
either - tho it is becoming the dominant server os (see top 500 list for<br>
example how it is dominated by linux). So of course we are not the<br>
dominant browser users either .. so what.<br>
<br>
Chrome is the up and comer and will overtake firefox in due time imho.<br>
It is way, way, way better than firefox in a large number of important<br>
ways. It is young still but in a short time has gained enormous<br>
momentum. And it is not just windows users switching.<br>
<br>
However, that is google-chrome - I have not tried spots repo for a<br>
while but when I first tried it it was far less functional than<br>
google-chrome - cannot tell you why (java flash problems primarily if I<br>
recall).<br>
<br>
At present chrome is eating mostly IE users and safari users ... and<br>
linux firefox users. I actually no longer know anyone using firefox on<br>
linux (not saying there are none) but everyone I know using linux -<br>
regardless of distro is using google-chrome and holding firefox<br>
just-in-case something has stupidly checked for IE/FF.<br>
<br>
Everyone I know used to use firefox on linux - and that has changed ..<br>
ok not 70 MM but quite a large number!<br>
<br>
We should be advancing chrome (or chromium) - it is in our best<br>
interest - to work on either chromium or with google to include<br>
google-chrome in fedora. Google has switched their desktops to linux or<br>
mac (users choice) - now theres a few more chrome users on linux .. ;-)<br>
<br>
gene<br>
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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 23:06:45 -0500<br>Subject: Re: F13 installation: successful with small problem and larger one.<br>On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 4:31 PM, fred smith<br>
<<a href="mailto:fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us">fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi gang!<br>
><br>
> I installed F13 on my eeepc 901 on Friday. Since I changed the partitioing<br>
> scheme, I backed up the whole thing onto a USB HD first so I could restore<br>
> my home directory afterwards (in fact I also kept dd images of /dev/sda<br>
> and /dev/sdb in case I decided to put F12 back on it later.)<br>
><br>
> first small problem:<br>
> I wanted /dev/sda (4 gig SSD) to contain /boot and /. I wanted /dev/sdb<br>
> (16gig SSD) to contain swap and /home. I DID NOT want LVM. I DID want<br>
> encrypted filesystems. But when I tell Anaconda to partition without LVM<br>
> and without VG, it disables encrypted partition option. Is there any<br>
> way to regain that feature?<br>
<br>
I'm a little late to the conversation but just to offer another<br>
option. I actually did want LVM on my EEEPC 701. I only have a 4GB<br>
main SSD as well and I also have a 4GB SD card it it. On my original<br>
install of F12 I found the SSD to be rather slow so since I don't keep<br>
anything important on it I decided to experiment with an LVM striped<br>
volume. I end up wasting a little space for two reasons. One I need a<br>
/boot that's not in LVM, and two, although both are considered 4GB<br>
storage devices, they are not exactly the same size.<br>
<br>
Anyway, I used gparted from System Rescue CD on a flash drive to setup<br>
my partitions since anaconda can be rather limiting, especially prior<br>
to the F13 version. Then I use the custom disk layout option and<br>
manually set everything up.<br>
<br>
I find a noticeable reduction in program load times with the LVM<br>
stripe and if eithe drive goes bad, no problem. Like I said I don't<br>
keep anything important on it.<br>
<br>
Richard<br>
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