<font face="tahoma,sans-serif"><br></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/3/21 James McKenzie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jjmckenzie51@gmail.com">jjmckenzie51@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On 3/21/11, Joe Zeff <<a href="mailto:joe@zeff.us">joe@zeff.us</a>> wrote:<br>
> On 03/21/2011 08:34 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:<br>
>> Perhaps a command line tool for enabling configuration:<br>
>> sudo IHerebySwear 'I am not now and have never been a Windows user.'<br>
><br>
> I'd like to see the response to that be:'<br>
><br>
> "You lie; you used sudo."<br>
><br>
> If you're a proper Linux user on your own box, you use this:<br>
><br>
> su -c IHerebySwear 'I am not now and have never been a Windows user.'<br>
<br>
</div>sudo, used by sysadmins who KNOW their users will be abusive.<br>
<br>
su - used by sysadmins who checked out their user's credentials and<br>
found out they know more about Linux then they do.<br>
<br>
Either way, I prefer to give users sudo as it is restrictive and I<br>
know what they can/cannot do and how much damge I'll have to fix when<br>
they break things.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
James McKenzie<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">--<br>
users mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org">users@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>
To unsubscribe or change subscription options:<br>
<a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><br>
Guidelines: <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines</a><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all">Quite a Discussion Here, let me give you my opinion:<div><br></div><div>First of all, KDE is the best desktop. I'm not going to go deeper, but for example, Gnome Shell</div>
<div>freezes my machine with my "average workload" for the day. in KDE, (even with Kwin ON) I can load my</div><div>system very heavily and it stills functioning as seamless as it has to be, no annoying freezes.</div>
<div><br></div><div>By other hand, the adoption of Gnome3Shell is a great step for fedora, First, because the distro is going to</div><div>will conserve it's fame of being futurist, second, because is the only distro at a first glance that will adopt</div>
<div>gnome shell, so we will earn some new users looking for a clean install of that desktop coming from a LiveCD</div><div>"pre-installed" and not needed to be done by them and finally, I'm glad of this change because</div>
<div>old Fedora users will never leave fedora, I'm quite sure (because of what I've been reading in Fedora Planet)</div><div>That users are going to switch to other desktops, mainly KDE and XFCE, Wich is great because this way,</div>
<div>more users can Try the AWESOME desktop KDE is and see it with their own eyes in F15 and also, the ones</div><div>using XFCE will help making this last desktop a better alternative for everyone.</div><div><br></div><div>
it's a "win-win" thing :)</div><div><br></div><div>-- <br><-Manuel Escudero-><br>Linux User #509052<br>@GWave: <a href="mailto:jmlevick@googlewave.com">jmlevick@googlewave.com</a><br>@Blogger: <a href="http://www.blogxenode.tk/">http://www.blogxenode.tk/</a> (Xenode Systems Blog)<br>
PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6<br><br>
</div>