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On Apr 25, 2013 2:22 PM, "Rick Stevens" <<a href="mailto:ricks@alldigital.com">ricks@alldigital.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive:<br>
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>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens <<a href="mailto:ricks@alldigital.com">ricks@alldigital.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ricks@alldigital.com">ricks@alldigital.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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>> Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the<br>
>> internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This is why I<br>
>> continue asking on the wrong list. If you want to be more<br>
>> helpful, it<br>
>> might be possible to take this question and post it to the<br>
>> correct list.<br>
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>> The correct list for pre-release variants of Fedora (e.g. F19) is<br>
>> "<a href="mailto:test@lists.fedoraproject.org">test@lists.fedoraproject.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:test@lists.fedoraproject.org">test@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>>"<br>
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>> (a.k.a. "The Fedora Test List"). You have<br>
>> to join that list in the same manner as you joined this list.<br>
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>> All discussions about pre-released software (e.g. "F19", "rawhide",<br>
>> even updates of code for existing releases) occur on that list. Once<br>
>> F19 (or an updated RPM for an existing package) is released, then<br>
>> discussions regarding that released code shift over to THIS list.<br>
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>> In answer to your other question, grub2 is the default boot for F19 and<br>
>> grub2 looks a lot different than grub did. The fedup operation makes<br>
>> your system F19 and hence you aren't offered the old grub stuff. Also,<br>
>> being on F19 prevents us from answering a lot of your questions since<br>
>> most people on this list don't use F19 (yet).<br>
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>> I belong to both lists (test and users). I have an F19 machine for<br>
>> experimental purposes, but I'm not a seasoned F19 user. Some other<br>
>> members of this list are also members of test, but the reverse is<br>
>> certainly NOT true (most test members never even look at this list).<br>
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>> - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital <a href="mailto:ricks@alldigital.com">ricks@alldigital.com</a><br>
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>> Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking<br>
>> that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful.<br>
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>> If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x?<br>
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> Ok, that's one we can probably handle. You can run newer systems on<br>
> older kernels (many people do). It's not recommended but sometimes<br>
> necessary if, for example, you have older hardware that newer kernels<br>
> have orphaned for some reason.<br>
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> The odds are that you have an option in your yum configuration that<br>
> blocks upgrades in kernels (although I'd expect fedup to bypass that<br>
> somehow). Look in your various /etc/yum* files and see if you have an<br>
> "exclude=kernel*" thing in there. Quick check (as root):<br>
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> # cd /etc<br>
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<p>I don't get anything.</p>