<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Bill Oliver <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vendor@billoblog.com" target="_blank">vendor@billoblog.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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On Mon, 27 May 2013, Richard Vickery wrote:<br>
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Sorry for the HTML code; I'm trying to fix it. However, I yum-installed mutt and attempted to send the following email:<br></div>
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Does this happen with all email, or only email to fedoraproject?<br>
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Here's the obligatory "Hmmm... It works out of the box for me..." I hate reading that when I have a problem, but I feel obligated to let you know.<br>
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I'm not a mutt expert -- I have it installed only so I can script broadcast emails from the command line -- but my impression is that it's like pine in that it's a client, not a server, and uses the mail server software you have installed for sending (e.g. sendmail, postfix), and hands off to that. The error message you gave looks to me like a server issue. Do you have another client on that box, like alpine, that does work?<br>
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Since the problem is a timeout, it sounds like the server is talking to fedoraproject, which means, to me, that mutt has handed it off.<br>
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Here are some things that have screwed me over in the past:<br>
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1) The mailinglist only accepts mail with your name from one ip address or domain, and this ain't it. Usually this gets a better error message than timeout, but I've seen it.<br>
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2) There's an authentication problem (this is the most common for me, particularly if I'm doing POP/IMAP stuff involving dovecot). Again, this usually gets a better error message than a timeout, but I've seen it there, too. A lot depends on how the servers are configured.<br>
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3) You do not have your client pointing to the correct server/MTA. I've done this when I've had multiple domains and multiple servers behind one firewall/router. I've also made the mistake of using "localhost" for my server when I didn't mean to, and had installed, but not set up, sendmail on my laptop as part of a default setup. So, I kept trying to debug my "real" mail server and couldn't find a problem, when in fact my mail client was trying to use my unconfigured laptop as a server. Doh. That's a day out of my life I'll never get back.<br>
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4) You do not have your domain correctly denoted, and so there's a mismatch (e.g. you are sending from "<a href="http://billoblog.com" target="_blank">billoblog.com</a>" but you are attaching "localdomain.") That can cause some problems later on, though usually for me the error message tells me that the reverse lookup failed at the recipient site. I also get this on occasion when sending mail through an ISP that returns the ISP domain on reverse lookup.<br>
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5) Fedoraproject's MTA was actually down when you tried to talk to it, and you just have bad timing. It will clear up later.<br>
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Since this is a bit of a touchy mailinglist culture here, I assume you'll get all sorts of flak if you send an empty test email using a direct sendmail or postfix command. Maybe there's a "test" address that the mailinglist advertises for debugging. If so, I'd just do the old tried and true "/usr/sbin/sendmail -v somewhere@somedomain < /dev/null " and see what you get. If *that* times out, then it's not mutt that's the problem.<br>
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</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style>I went to a site for configuration which suggested I install these three packages, one of which we (Fedora) have abandoned in 2008 (may not be these packages):</div>
<div class="gmail_extra" style><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style>fetchmail msmtp procmail<br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style>Thanks for the help,</div><div class="gmail_extra" style>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style>Sorry again about the HTML,</div><div class="gmail_extra" style><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style>Richard</div></div>