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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/01/2014 08:23 PM, Rahul Sundaram
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      <div dir="ltr">HI<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM,
            Robert Moskowitz wrote:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Perhaps
              at some point we will get better tools for using systemd. 
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              <div>Thanks for bringing in something useful to the
                discussion that I can address:</div>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">I
              mean compare:<br>
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              systemctl restart sshd.service<br>
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              with<br>
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              service sshd restart<br>
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              Is there something else to do with sshd other than
              sshd.service?  I have not found it.  Why not:<br>
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              systemctl restart sshd<br>
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            <div>Have you tried?  Hint:  It works fine.</div>
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    Nope.  Nice to know.<br>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Then
              there was good old 'chkconfig' that produced a nice
              tablular report of services that can be controlled.  I
              have yet to find anything close to this with systemd.</blockquote>
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            <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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    You think<br>
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    'chkconfig --list' can be easily replaced with<br>
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    systemctl list-unit-files --type=service(preferred)<br>
    ls /etc/systemd/system/*.wants/ <br>
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    Nah.  No way.<br>
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    Oh, and that (perferred) gives an error  :)<br>
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    And the list is hugh compared to what services are really up to user
    control.  I mean listed items like:<br>
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    dbus-org.fedoraproject.FirewallD1.service   enabled <br>
    dbus-org.freedesktop.hostname1.service      static  <br>
    dbus-org.freedesktop.locale1.service        static  <br>
    dbus-org.freedesktop.login1.service         static  <br>
    dbus-org.freedesktop.machine1.service       static  <br>
    dbus-org.freedesktop.ModemManager1.service  enabled <br>
    dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service enabled <br>
    dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service  enabled <br>
    dbus-org.freedesktop.timedate1.service      static  <br>
    dbus.service                                static  <br>
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    And there are others there that are just as challenging to remember
    when you need them.<br>
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